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GWR: the case for more replicas.

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  1. Reading General

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    Total locos preserved built from 1835 to the Churchward era...: 1. Plenty of early locos in the other three of the Big Four's pre-grouping constituents, how's that for n excuse for more GWR locos?

    Ignoring the Broad Gauge , there were many hundreds of standard gauge locos and I for one would love to see a few replicas.

    Any preferences?. Mine would be a double framed pannier, an open-cabbed saddle tank of any of the types later rebuilt as panniers, a Barnum 2-4-0, a Metro tank and of course, a Dean Single. Or for you Oxfordshire GWR types ( ;-) ) how about "Fair Rosamund" ?
     
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    How did you square that one? I can think of 2 on the GWSR alone built before the grouping...
     
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    An Outside framed Pannier would be a great and useful addition.

    The gaps in preservation isn't anything that was built after 1923...
    When you see some of the older beauties preserved in Australia and even the Netherlands that were Victorian UK products.. it'd be nice if there was a few more of the same over here (Bluebell obviously excluded).

    I sadly noticed in the latest steam railway a list of all new builds had omitted the first of them all... 670 at Tyseley, which has become the one that preservation forgot and surely the quickest win considering how close it is..
     
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    The way i read the original post was anything from 1835 to 1902 - Therefore anything before Mr Churchward started designing and building locos.
     
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    Oh I see, beg pardon then :)
     
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    Perhaps finishing the current batch of GWR new builds would be a better idea.
     
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    I see you've been put straight but just to emphasise ....pre-Churchward, not pre-grouping, as the Grouping hadlittle effect on the GWR (nb although Broad Gauge went by 1892, it was a long time dying, and narrow gauge was where all the emphasis on development was.
     
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    Would it? Well, I know there are plans for a 4-4-0 County and a County Tank and a few others to come, but that's the point. They are all Churchward era or after (which is still basically Churchward territory) and there is a wealth of pre Churchward locos to go at . Other than the GWR, most preGrouping Companies are quite well represented
     
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    I would love to see a Dean Single new build, Didcot put a couple of feelers out a couple of years and I expressed interest in helping to fund it
     
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    Watch it Spamcan, you'll be getting a like from PH if you carry on with those kind of dangerously progressive views ;)

    Tom
     
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    My mistake. I meant to say "how about scrapping all of those GWR new builds first?" :D
     
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    I thought the GWR enthusiast modus operandi was to scrap existing locos so they could create non-existent ones? :confused:

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    Having just been reading my latest copy of Island Rail News, I'm wondering when the IoWSR are going to repatriate a Beyer-Peacock 2-4-0T from Australia? :eek:

    (And for the complete avoidance of doubt: they all look very well cared for over there and represent a valuable cultural export that has no need to return to the UK. Plus some of them are broad gauge ...)

    Tom
     
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    Nasty!

    Good, but nasty!
     
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    Now now, the people at the Frankenstein factory don't speak for all us GWR aficionados! :D
     
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    Both bits of 3217/9017 were built before Churchward took over. They just weren't joined together until 1938.
     
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    Well we are steadily working our way through the missing Isle of Wight classes :)
     
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    That was progress. GWR style.......
     
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    don't forget, there is that marvelous "replica" at Windsor & Eton Station..............

    Cheers

    Alan
     
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    Churchward was actually CME de facto long before Dean retired . I doubt 9017s boiler was pre Churchward though.
     
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