The Hadrian 7th March

Where's 35018 when we need it... (Wink, wink, nudge, nudge)

 

Plenty of Dalesman turns for running in if its completed this summer.
Back in thread this trip is resembling one the Beatles sang of ........

 

I see RTC saying steam on at Carnforth but Uksteam showing 5690 from Man Vic ?

 

I would be interested In finding out what's on it for the outward leg, I don't fancy an early start for a class 47!!

 

Tickets say diesel from Manchester to Carnforth, so I'm joining at Preston

 

Ok thanks Pete will catch it on the return

 

Ticket info also states Steam only after Carnforth, with 45690 in charge Brighouse - Preston.

 

So will the box go on the back at S Milford ?, I wonder

 

As I said, no box after Carnforth ! This is from RTC so it must be true !

 

tickets also say 44871 but the owner says 45407....
RTC also say on the updated website over two hours in Carlisle but the timings say not.....

 

Hence the wink

 

Why would you need a box on the back after Brighouse?

 

As was established earlier in the thread, line is quite steep up to Summit.

 

But not overly so, Newcastle - Liverpool's were often Jubilee hauled, don't think 11 on is unduly excessive on this road !

 

That was then, this is now...

 

Agreed, quite steep, but not as steep as other routes where Jubilees perform with similar loads unassisted e.g. S & C & Wilpshire & on the odd occasion Shap.

 

The difference being...?

 

A risk-averse Network Rail. These things happen, but I'd like to be proved wrong on this and it is 'clean steam' west of Brighouse.

 

It will depend on the sectional times the tour needs to achieve to keep out of the way of service trains. 11 is quite a substantial load for a 5XP. DL assistance won't be needed if they can get a long enough path, but that's quite a big "if". Let's hope the line's quiet enough on a Saturday evening to allow it to run unassisted.

 

According to a previous post, after Hebden Bridge, the gradient tightens to 1:182 for 6 miles, you WILL hear it, but i'll bet it's doing over 45 at Summit given a good rail ! (will I live to regret that ? doubt it)