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Steel Steam and Stars 4 - March 6, 7, 8, 13, 14 and 15 2015

Discussion in 'Galas and Events' started by RA & FC, Sep 12, 2014.

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  1. Drewry Car

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    Thanks for your reply Iain, very much appreciated.
     
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    So just to clarify PLEASE, the 5 is working on evenings of FRI & SAT (13TH& 14TH)??
    THANKS SO MUCH,
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    Excuse my ignorance....but how come its more expensive to purchase a day rover ticket (£22) with gift aid than one with out gift aid (£20)?
     
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    Cheers.
     
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    Because the one with gift aid has to include a gift, i.e. an optional donation. Gift aid can only be claimed back on the gift element (the £2 difference between the cost of the ticket with and the cost without), not on the basic cost of the ticket.
     
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    Ah ha.....so the railway gets the tax paid on the extra £2?
     
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    Yes, though it's 6880 who is selling the tickets not LR ;)
     
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  8. RA & FC

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    That's it, 6880 make all the money from the event. It takes Llan railway PLC a bit more effort to then get the money out of the group in return for a certain new build loco moving closer to completion.
     
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  9. MatthewCarty

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    On the timetable, does anyone know what the various sets of carriages are, these are my guesses:
    5A - 4x Mk1 plus Thompson buffet car. Blood and Custard?
    5B - 4x Mk1 plus GWR observation saloon. Choclate and Cream
    3 - Suburbans (Are there 3 now?). Maroon?
    Freight - What does this include?
    Thanks, Matthew
     
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  10. RA & FC

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    That lot sounds about right. 3rd sub is being if I shed tomorrow, so first passenger runs will be Friday. Freight not formed up yet. Be whatever is fit to run, vac fitted and within specified length.
     
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    What happened to all those other coaches they had? There used to be 4 maroon mark 1s and some others.
     
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  12. MatthewCarty

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    Presumably they are just not needed. There are only a certain number of sets which can be used at once, and each set can be max 5 coaches due to the Corwen platform length
     
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    Err, wagons & vans of various descriptions & maybe a brake van or two?........ o_O

    Sorry, couldn't resist! :rolleyes:
     
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  14. RA & FC

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    Still got them. All sets restricted to 5 max due to Corwen Platform. Also the system isn't being used to maximum capacity to allow for recovery time / light engine moves / shunt time at Goods and Carrog.
     
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    Is there a reason why on Saturday the 9:57 only becomes a passenger train from Glyn? Does this not start Corwen as the 9:15, split at Carrog and then go on to Glyn?
     
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    Yes! Most trains take at least 1 hr to travel from Llan to Corwen. Why does the Corwen platform length limit the length of trains, there's nothing wrong with a few coaches off the end is there? 13 coaches in use (Friday) doesn't sound much considering the amount of people expected.
     
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  17. MatthewCarty

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    plus auto train, but I think your point is still fair!
     
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  18. MatthewCarty

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    On the second Saturday, should the 11:34 ex Carrog be with the 'Train Engine' (i.e. 34092) like on the first Saturday, or with 3802 as shown?
     
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    I can't remember the reason off the top of my head, but i'm sure it's come from an ORR recommendation. Very unfortunate really. No, not a lot of capacity for a big event is it!
     
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    Also, if you think that both of the 5 car sets has a brake - so there's half a coach lost. Then you have the saloon on the choc and cream set. Less capacity than a TSO. And on the carmine and cream set is the Thomson buffet - 60' in length yet only having 8 seats.

    Hopefully things will be sorted for future events and normal running days even. There's a lot of 'politics' going on behind the scenes at the moment!
     
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