RTT and things you may not know or realise

Where in Ben's post did he say that people were stupid to rely on RTT?

 

I think referring to someone as "stupid" for trusting RTT is a little insulting. I would prefer to think that they have misinterpreted the accuracy of a very official sounding web application.

The challenge we have with Twitter and Facebook on the day of an excursion is we are all working on the train, and not sitting next to the computer!

 

Is the Diesel acting as a banker?

 

Alan, Ben didn't say that, I was merely asking the question. Maybe stupid is a bit strong but if I had spent a lot of money and was looking forward to a great day out (which is what you do going on a steam charter) and had heard through another source that the tour was not running, I would want to confirm it direct with the charter company or their official channels. To me that seems common sense.

 

Apologies Hemerdon, I read your post wrong and now realise what you actually meant.
I must get more sleep!

 

Pax are late for everything, Planes, Trains, Ferries, When Branson launches his space shuttle someone will be late to check in there as well. The only common denominator in every case is the fact the late pax will be aggrieved and complain bitterly that everyone else wasn't inconvenienced and forced to wait for them.

 

May be people should look at what RTT actually does in the first place and where it obtains it's info / times / details from, this may assist - http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/about and http://blog.realtimetrains.co.uk/2013/08/welcome-rttv2.html Just please remember, it is only as good as it's original source of info / times / details. Personally, it is an excellent application and everyone should appreciate the time and work that has gone into rather than criticise or picky over information / times / details provided by RTT. What is the alternative, it dont exist then you all have something to complain about!

 

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S73164/2014/12/24/advanced

 

I suppose tell-tale signs that it's steam (if there's any doubt!) are
1) presence of water stops
2) light engine or turning paths at one or both ends of the journey (possibly on day before or day after, if light engine move)
3) slower path than would be expected for a service train or diesel tour, for that route
4) similar path to previous steam-hauled trips, for a given route
5) extended stop at somewhere appropriate for steam to come on, e.g. Carnforth, Crewe etc.

 

Al & Ralph have the jist of it, treat RTT as a guide rather than proof of facts beyond all doubt.

 

Even then it's not necessarily 100% accurate, as those of us who waited for last Saturday's Cleethorpes - Carlisle excursion which took a route other than the one shown on RTT can testify!

 

The route of the original would have been planned in advance of course and it would be virtually impossible to put the revised route into the system right away. Its Network Rails Information that Tom uses so to keep knocking RTT for being wrong just doesnt wash,he doesnt put the info in by hand, he just uses the data given by NR .. as Ralph says use it as a guide and cross check it with Gen groups if you can..

 

Wasn't knocking, just making an observation.

 

does RTT show what diesel unit is allocated to a freight service

 

Careful - it is the type that the train was pathed for, not the type that will/did actually work the service. So on the Skegness line, it will be pathed for a Sprinter (classes 150/153/156), but that doesn't (a) tell me which class to expect or (b) prevent a 158 being rostered.

When I used to use 1Y90 out of York a lot, it always came up on RTT as an IC125, even when a 91 + MKIV set substituted.