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Rasprava u 'What's Going On' pokrenuta od 5098, 10. Svibanj 2015..

  1. alastair

    alastair Well-Known Member

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    Rescue diesel from Carnforth? :

    http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O09986/2015/07/09/advanced
     
  2. garstangpost

    garstangpost New Member

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    37518 1z99 Carnforth - Carlisle
     
  3. sgthompson

    sgthompson Part of the furniture Friend

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    45690 failed with diesel returning the train I believe .
     
  4. simon 6233

    simon 6233 New Member

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    45690 failed because the regulator has stuck shut. The 37 is here now to take engine and coach back to Carnforth via the mainline.
     
  5. noelist

    noelist Member

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  6. sgthompson

    sgthompson Part of the furniture Friend

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    Oh dear looks like it will be a long day for the passengers !
     
  7. noelist

    noelist Member

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    Ah...well then, tuther diesel to take coaches + passengers to York l guess.....Ta.
     
  8. 47406

    47406 Well-Known Member

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    Last edited: 9. Srpanj 2015.
  9. 45581

    45581 Part of the furniture

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    Needs two diesels on the Hellifield York leg because they reverse at Leeds, wont need to stop at Hellifield now.
     
  10. 47406

    47406 Well-Known Member

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    Arrived York only 43 late.

    Missed out Wakefield stops
     
  11. MellishR

    MellishR Resident of Nat Pres Friend

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    Direct from Leeds to York, with Wakefield and Normanton passengers sent on service trains?
     
  12. MellishR

    MellishR Resident of Nat Pres Friend

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    Normally, after arrival at Carlisle, the loco and support coach would detach fairly soon to run to Upperby. However long they spent trying to get the loco moving, they should have decided by 3-ish that they were likely to need at least one diesel to take the train back to York, and possibly (definitely as it turned out) another one to take the Jubilee back to Carnforth. RTT shows 1Z99 leaving "Steamtown" at 15:25 (which seems reasonable), leaving Carnforth on its way north at 15:51, and scheduled to arrive at 17:22 but not getting there until 19:24. What on earth caused that delay? And why didn't the other rescue diesel leave Hellifield until 17:48, also reaching Carlisle at 19:24?
     
  13. 47406

    47406 Well-Known Member

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    keith6233 se sviđa ovo.
  14. Paul5337

    Paul5337 New Member

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    The 37 arrived at Carlisle at 1720. The rescue diesels couldn't leave Hellifield until there was someone there to drive them.
     
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  15. sycamore

    sycamore Member

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    Surprised we 're not complaining about the LACK of 'box' on the back this time given the unfortunate events at Carlisle LOL
     
  16. Big Al

    Big Al Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator

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    Well, looking on the bright side of an unfortunate failure, better that it was stuck shut rather than open.
     
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  17. RalphW

    RalphW Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Administrator Friend

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    True, it's very unlikely that there would be a spare driver at Carnforth, and the driver for the diesel at Hellifield was not required for duty until shortly before the booked arrival time, 18.48 so he could have been anywhere.
    You cannot just have spare drivers sitting around waiting just in case, unless of course you want to add the cost of this to the cost of the tour it's never going to happen.
    Then there is the time taken to contact NR and get a path organised, and the paperwork completed. I do sometimes despair at the lack of consideration some have for the amount of work involved in a fairly straight forward thing like getting a rescue loco on the move.
     
    Last edited: 10. Srpanj 2015.
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  18. Shep Woolley

    Shep Woolley Well-Known Member Friend

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    Unfortunately Ralph you will get people who speak before thinking and knowing the facts
     
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  19. 46236

    46236 Well-Known Member

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    Its called contingency plans...........
     
  20. Swiss Toni

    Swiss Toni Well-Known Member

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    Wuss! :)
     

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