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6100 Royal Scot

Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by neildimmer, May 18, 2013.

  1. John Petley

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    The SVR is ideal for running in - a line 16 miles long gives a loco plenty of chance to stretch its legs and with gradients of 1 in 100, if you hook 7 or 8 coaches behind the loco, it will have to work a bit. If things work well with 46100, who knows, the Hosking team might run 34046 there in later in the year. Following up three Manors with three rebuilt WC/BBs would be rather appealing to some of us! Oh, and there's also a big blue 4-6-0 that might benefit from a few miles running in somewhere before being let loose on the national network...
     
  2. Big Al

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    I have to say that I'm surprised anyone sends a 4-6-0 or a 4-6-2 anywhere on a low loader unless there is absolutely no alternative. Good for the SVR though, however it gets there.
     
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    Having worked for many years at a railway that did not have a mainline connection, but did regularly bring in large locos by road; 4-6-2s, 4-6-0s, 2-10-0, 2-8-0 etc, I believe that the issue has more to do with the quality of the haulage contractors ramps etc rather than road haulage as such.
     
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    "Absolutely no alternative happens" on many occasions for railways without a main line connection or when moving a loco not certified for movement on the national network.
     
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    I concur with that.
     
  6. Martin Perry

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    Glad to hear that - especially as your pride and joy was one of them :)
     
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    Indeed, running in on a Heritage line is certainly to be recommended for "snagging". But I believe the big blue 4-6-0 is rumoured to be heading to a different heritage line (eventually).
     
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    A friend was on the train going from Crewe north on the WCML and messaged to say Royal Scot was outside in steam this afternoon.
     
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    Cheers Gav, Just what I need to read before bedtime! The interrogation will begin tomorrow with 'Who's Scot?' Joking aside is there a better looking loco than a rebuilt Scot? I think its a 3 way tie between a Jube, Scot or Black 5 certainly for me anyway.
     
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    Rebuilt patriots and Bulleids could also be added to that
     
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    How's about an A1, A2, A3, A4, to name but them?...... :rolleyes:....... jeez, you don't half need educating..... then there's Bulleid's finest...... of which you have two on the SVR!........ there's no pleasing some...... o_O
     
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    Or indeed a nice manor class... :)
     
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    Ah yes the nice looking beasties rebuilt by Mr Jarvis they do have a nice 'London Midland' look to them dont they?
     
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    I think I have declared my love for Charlie Colletts 4-6-0's before they are rather nice. I'm slightly biased towards Mr Stanier and the LMS though I cant remember who said it but the description of the Big Lizzies as an 'Iron fist in a silk glove' I really couldn't have put it better myself. I think my 'Scot' obsession comes from I havent seen one in steam yet! Seen 6115 at TYS but it wasnt in action then(1992)
     
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    You have something to look forward to then, Matt...on a railway a little further south than Bury!:)

    A Crewe North driver once said to me that a Scot can do everything a Lizzie can do, except the last bit of what a Lizzie can do. Having seen them come into Crewe from Euston with fifteen on, I have some idea of what he meant. Read the late "Piccolo Pete" Johnson's books to get the true footplate flavour.

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    There is ALWAYS somthing to look forward to in this hobby! But a bottle of Bathams in the LMS Buffet while 46100 struts its stuff up Eardington? The countdown starts here! :):):)
     
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    Looking at the Crewe Heritage centre web cam this morning and the Duchess is nearest with just a faint trace of smoke drifting out of the chimney, normal slow light up procedure for her I guess. However there seem to be two further sources of steam/smoke in the background but it's impossible to see what they are, one maybe Royal Scot, but what could the other be?
     
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    I also agree. Was simply talking about 'best case' scenario that obviously cannot apply in all instances but I do believe that if you are into risk management, it could be an issue.

    As an aside, Clan Line has never been on a low loader and as far as the MNLPS is concerned, never will.
     
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    Strange to say but although the return of Flying Scotsman is a prospect to look forward to, in my mind, it will be eclipsed by 46100 going main line, whenever that is. And I guess that just illustrates the fact that different people have different preferences which is why the heritage movement is so diverse and interesting, in my view.
     
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    Looking forward to seeing 46100 working on the main line once again. The last time I saw it was at Manchester Victoria in 1960 when it was double headed with 46154 on a Newcastle-Liverpool express.
    Just imagine, 46100+46115 over Standedge:)

    Let the good times roll!
     

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