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Welsh Mountaineer, 4th August

Rasprava u 'What's Going On' pokrenuta od Steamage, 4. Kolovoz 2015..

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  1. Moylesy98

    Moylesy98 Guest

    Looking at information in a booklet I have from my last trip on "The Welsh Mountaineer" in 2014, the gradient out of Betws-y-Coed starts at 1 in 50 with the steepest part being at 1 in 36.
     
    Moylesy98, 4. Kolovoz 2015.
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  2. Steamage

    Steamage Part of the furniture

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    Quite. It's twisty, too! 48151 and 61994 have coped with 6 before now, though not sure with how much margin. Several Black 5s have shown that 5 is enough for them.
     
    Steamage, 4. Kolovoz 2015.
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  3. henrywinskill

    henrywinskill Well-Known Member

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    Anyone know who was driving today?
     
    henrywinskill, 4. Kolovoz 2015.
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  4. guycarr360

    guycarr360 Part of the furniture

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    Quick Question:

    Is it the TOC, or NR who decide the load for the trip???

    Or do we expect NR to get involved with recommendations for load, class of loco, assistance requirements.

    Cannot think the problems since re-instatement will go un noticed...
     
    guycarr360, 4. Kolovoz 2015.
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  5. 5944

    5944 Resident of Nat Pres

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    I did one of the trips with 61994 a couple of years ago. Had to look at the map and gradient profile to realise we were climbing - she absolute flew!
     
    5944, 4. Kolovoz 2015.
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  6. free2grice

    free2grice Part of the furniture Friend

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    It was a West Coast crew. Do we really need to know any more? <BJ>
     
    free2grice, 4. Kolovoz 2015.
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  7. henrywinskill

    henrywinskill Well-Known Member

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    Not we, me I asked a simple question which you answered with a question
    Strange that you joined on my birthday
     
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    henrywinskill, 4. Kolovoz 2015.
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  8. royce6229

    royce6229 Well-Known Member

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    When 80079 stalled she set back 3 times and easily restarted on the straight and accelerated but as soon as she got onto the check rails speed fell off and that was that. before we set off up the branch an ex Llandudno Junction driver said you will never get past MP19 with that load, and he was exactly right. 45231 a couple of years ago was an exact repeat.
     
    royce6229, 4. Kolovoz 2015.
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  9. 33056

    33056 Member

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    My contact said they got to 18 3/4 mp before they eventually set back.
     
    33056, 4. Kolovoz 2015.
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  10. free2grice

    free2grice Part of the furniture Friend

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    As I replied: ''It was a West Coast crew''. <BJ>
     
    free2grice, 4. Kolovoz 2015.
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  11. Big Al

    Big Al Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator

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    Have only travelled the line once but it was with TWO Stanier 4 tanks on a load of 7. Can't say we noticed much of a gradient but perhaps the motive power and load combination tells you why.
     
    Big Al, 4. Kolovoz 2015.
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  12. Paul42

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    In 2009 with 45231 with 6, we set back to Betws-y-Coed and left a coach there to enable us to get to Blaenau Ffestiniog. Bill Andrew was driving.
     
    Paul42, 4. Kolovoz 2015.
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  13. 26D_M

    26D_M Part of the furniture

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    Déjà vu all over again. Wasn't it Einstein defined insanity as doing the same thing but expecting a different outcome?
     
    26D_M, 4. Kolovoz 2015.
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    royce6229 se sviđa ovo.
  14. Big Al

    Big Al Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator

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    I was at Oban the day the locals were saying that if we were expecting to get back up to Crainlarich with seven on and one loco then we had another think coming. Now it's done top n tail. Perhaps Blaenau is another example.
     
    Big Al, 4. Kolovoz 2015.
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  15. sgthompson

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    Bit harsh if you were not on the footplate with all the facts unless you mean you could have driven the 5 better but I doubt that !
     
    sgthompson, 4. Kolovoz 2015.
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    steam man, Haighie, henrywinskill i 2 ostalih se sviđa ovo.
  16. Paul42

    Paul42 Part of the furniture

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    Or leave the support coach at Llandudno Jn, which I believe has happened since the train I was on in 2009, if there is still a siding to put it.
     
    Paul42, 4. Kolovoz 2015.
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  17. royce6229

    royce6229 Well-Known Member

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    Blimey was it as long ago as 2009! Forgot that the first 80079 never got to Blaenau, it was the second run they split the train.
     
    royce6229, 4. Kolovoz 2015.
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  18. 242A1

    242A1 Well-Known Member

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    No surprise there. The advantage of a specialised class compared with a general purpose design. The WC people may be regretting the fact that the K4 is based on the NYM at present.
     
    242A1, 4. Kolovoz 2015.
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  19. Swiss Toni

    Swiss Toni Well-Known Member

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    I think you tempted fate Ian, ;)

    Enid Blyton.jpg
     
    Swiss Toni, 4. Kolovoz 2015.
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  20. Linesider

    Linesider Well-Known Member

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    Just a quick grab of 45231 working the ECS back to Carnforth tonight.

     
    Linesider, 4. Kolovoz 2015.
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