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The Golden Arrow, 9th-11th October.

Rasprava u 'What's Going On' pokrenuta od D1002, 5. Listopad 2015..

  1. hatherton hall

    hatherton hall Well-Known Member

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    Great vid. With such a small load for a Class 7 loco, why was the diesel pushing at Shepherds Well? Puzzling. Unless of course the diesel driver was bored to tears and just wanted to get in on the action. I just hate these unnecessary contributions from the back.
     
  2. KentYeti

    KentYeti Guest

    Did the train have a diesel on the back at the time?

    :eek:

    ;)

    PS. If true a very sad day for those who spent a great deal of money on travelling, along with those who planned it all etc. But..."running 19th century technology . . . . etc . . . . "
     
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  3. KentYeti

    KentYeti Guest

    Wasn't it an ECS by then?
     
  4. 5944

    5944 Resident of Nat Pres

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    From what I can gather, a diesel was sent from Boulogne, possibly after being taken off an intercity service. 02.45 arrival in Paris was quoted as well! Diesel hauled on the return to Calais today, they should be at the Baie de Somme railway at the moment.

    What I can't work out is the departure time from Calais on Friday. Considering the early start from Victoria, around 10am at Dover would mean a sailing about 12pm, 2.30pm at Calais, 4pm departure. But it looks like departure from Calais wasn't much before sunset going by a couple of photos I've seen, so around 6pm. Even without the loco failure, it was a long day, made far worse when you add in what looks like a four hour wait for a replacement loco.
     
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  5. Big Al

    Big Al Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator

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  6. KentYeti

    KentYeti Guest

    It's France. A long lunch then a few hours putting the world to rights over a bottle or two of red wine.:)

    An 02.45 arrival in Paris after such an early start ex London must have been appalling for those on board.
     
  7. KentYeti

    KentYeti Guest

    23.11 into Vic on a Sunday night after all that has happened on this trip.

    Some sort of medal should be awarded to all those on board?
     
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  8. Johnb

    Johnb Nat Pres stalwart

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    I expect they all wanted to get home asap, with the diesel doing most of the work they may have been able to cut out a water stop and as there were no passengers on board it didn't matter. As for the 231K dropping plug, this was a cardinal sin in steam days and there could be repercussions from this. Unlike the UK steam is not a regular thing in France and it would be interesting to know how they keep the crews up to scratch over there.
     
  9. RalphW

    RalphW Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Administrator Friend

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    John is spot on there, if there are no passengers on board then what's the problem with the diesel doing the work.
    Once again repeating the obvious that some seem unhappy to accept, linesiders do not contribute to the run so they cannot expect an ecs to be run in conditions to suit them. :Yawn:
     
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  10. D1002

    D1002 Resident of Nat Pres

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    I wasn't being critical about the diesel doing all the work, merely responding to Liam's comment. Makes a lot of sense to me to let the diesel take the strain and get Britannia back to Southall in one piece.
    At Shepherds Well the station building was covered in scaffolding and there was a crew giving it a nice coat of white paint. All of a sudden a steam locomotive appeared, threatening to cover their wet paint with a layer of soot. Probably a good job the diesel was doing all the work.;)
     
  11. Chris_Sav

    Chris_Sav Member

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    Just seen it go past in the distance from the back window over Sandwich marshes, too dark to be able to tell whether the diesel was leading, but no firebox glow.
     
  12. mrKnowwun

    mrKnowwun Part of the furniture

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    Légion d’honneur?

    Képi Blanc de Flèche d’Or?
     
  13. leander

    leander Member

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    Went past Deal web cam at 20-25
     
  14. Chris_Sav

    Chris_Sav Member

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    That's more like it on the return journey, could hear the Brit and see the firebox glow from about three miles, going well towards sandwich
     
  15. Chris_Sav

    Chris_Sav Member

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    New one on me, could I have the URL for that please?
     
  16. RalphW

    RalphW Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Administrator Friend

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    No I realised that, it was someone else that my post was aimed at.......
     
  17. Matt35027

    Matt35027 Well-Known Member

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    The train went past behind my house between Paddock Wood and Tonbridge about 2155, Britannia barely working, diesel on the back could be heard thrashing away for some time afterwards.
     
  18. nickb

    nickb New Member

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    KentYeti se sviđa ovo.
  19. Spamcan81

    Spamcan81 Nat Pres stalwart

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    There we are, duly corrected for you. :p
     
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  20. KentYeti

    KentYeti Guest

    :Saywhat:

    ;)
     

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