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Line side scenery- telegraph poles

Discussion in 'Heritage Railways & Centres in the UK' started by Grashopper, Dec 23, 2013.

  1. Matt37401

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    I agree with you on that for example at Highley before the line was washed away there was some Token pickup/setdown equipment. Never saw it used but it added to the Ambience, unfortunatly I dont know whats happened to it since the floods.
     
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    I recall being involved in extending the B&KR's pole route from, I think, the up section signal to either the down outer home or down distant, in about 2000-2001. The extended pole route was partly for ambience, but was largely for track circuiting and to provide electric lamps in the two down signals mentioned.
     
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    The telegraph pole project continues with more work completed in the Wootton section last weekend. The next stage is to 'dress' the poles with foot-steps, cross-arms with insulators and a ‘tin hat’ – the finial to prevent the ingress of rainwater. This is scheduled to take place in November. Meanwhile work is ongoing to source the porcelain insulators, which may have to come from as far afield as China or India! Link to the IWSR website update here.
     
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    The next stage of the IWSR Telegraph Pole Project is about to get underway, more details are on the IWSR web site.
     
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    The few telegraph poles at Beamish have just been set to install an internal phone system.
     
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    I hope that you will be wiring up the route correctly using proper transpositions to avoid interference.
    So that all wires gradually rotate around and are not in the same position all the way.
     
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    The project initiator is a BT infrastructure professional, I expect he is all over the correct wiring method!
     
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    wiring 1.jpg Hope I did not seem to be being awkward or anything, did not intend that.
    However, What I intended to mean is best shown in the attached scan.
    This is for a Telegraph Pole route and is LNER in origin but I would expect all the railway companies to have had this sort of layout on their pole routes.

    Apologies for the angle of the scan but the drawing is from an LNER Technicians pocket book and I do not intend trying to take the drawing out of the binder as some of the other drawings are quite delicate.

    wiring 1.jpg
     
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    Interesting, the linesmen would have their work cut out trying to identify which wire was which when tracing the location of a fault along the run?
     
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    Interesting. I have the pole route drawings for part of the Met/GC around Great Missenden somewhere, I will have to see if they show transpositions or just pairs. Don't have a clue where they are though following various house moves, so don't hold your breath!

    I can't see why a linesman would struggle with this though since the lines are in consistent pairs along the run and preumably you'd normally be changing or testing one wire at a time.
     
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    The reason for transposition, by the way, is to minimise interference/pick-up between different circuits. The transpositions are arranged so that one pair of wires are exposed to equal but opposite induction fields from the adjacent pair(s) of wire(s) over the run, which should cancel out any interference the induction causes.
     
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    Doesn't Beamish also have a Strowger telephone exchange? Sadly the ones at the Festiniog are suffering and slowly being replaced with modern equipment because we can no longer find people with the knowledge and time to maintain them. It's real shame as the extensive internal system, complete with traditional pole route and electro-mechanical exchanges is probably the largest of it's type still left in the country.

    Tim
     
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    The IWSR Telegraph Pole Project Team started their 2015/16 winter work programme today. Despite some pretty dismal weather, rapid progress was being made. See the report on the IWSR website for more details and pictures.
     
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    Yes I believe that's the case, ex bt. It now has around 50 Telephones connected and growing.
     
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    A summary of the progress made so far this year on our Telegraph Pole Project has just been published on the IWSR website. Only a handful of poles now need attention before we can move on to wiring up the Havenstreet - Wootton section.
     
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    Reading this thread made me wonder why people see wooden poles with wires hanging from them as a wonderful part of the railway scene but think that steel poles with wires hanging over the track are ugly.:confused:
     
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    Well it is a shocking idea to put these wires above the running lines in the first place.:D
     

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