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Flying Scotsman

Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by 73129, Aug 24, 2010.

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  1. keith6233

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    http://www.itv.com/presscentre/ep1week16/flying-scotsman-robson-green
     
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  2. RalphW

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    Thanks for the advance notice of that Keith.
     
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    From the press release…
    You'd think they were issuing a profit warning or declaration of war…

    Simon
     
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    And you'd think they would thus stop the search engines from seeing it until the embargo date....ah, whoops, it's #4 on the first page of results for a Google search for "Flying Scotsman" and "Robson Green". Hmmm....
     
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  5. flying scotsman123

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    Looks like it should be a good documentary, although little bit concerned about the "if" statement, sounds awfully like they're trying to force some drama out of something that's not there, which gets under my skin.
     
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    If they don't want it circulated before the 12th the answer is simpl, don't release it until the 12th!
     
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    These days it could probably be done in vinyl to avoid re-paints. I would prefer additional water capacity to somehow be incorporated into the support coach. There's nice engineering design exercise for someone!
     
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    But terribly ungallant to reveal Penny's age!;)
     
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    Water storage in the support coach has been discussed at length previously when VT were looking at it, I think the idea was dropped as getting a reasonable capacity in would take up too much space.
     
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    Well if you can put a verandah on a MK1 you may as well have a big hot tub on it that could double as emergency water capacity.... ?
    Even using uprated bogies and careful distribution of linked tanks wonder what kind of load would be acceptable on a coach and how much space would it take up... without giving up a significant amount of space you only get an extra 1000 - 1500 gallons ?(guess)
    Do you have a link to that thread please mr Mod.

    Suppose the corridor tender has to stay as its part of the Scotsman Story
     
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    For those who haven't been following the SVR Pacific Power sans autumn gala thread, all tickets have sold out for FS/Tornado.
     
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  12. RalphW

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    A quick search for water carriers came up with various threads.. http://www.national-preservation.com/search/14620997/?page=2&q=water+carriers&t=post&o=date
     
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    But what about the people living on the support coach for a considerable amount time? The more space you have the better so not a practical option from personal experience.
     
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    But if you built water beds you could kill two birds with one stone and have a unique selling point for volunteering on the support crew. I think it is time for my medicine and a lie down....
     
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    I'm afraid some do not realise how much 'stuff' there is in a support coach already, and how little space remains. Typically you have the compartments, some converted with 4 bunk beds, the guards compartment now part of the kitchen and the rest storage racks and workshop area.
     
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    Precisely and the chassis isn't strong enough to carry a substantial well tank ? so the majority of the weight needs to be above the bogies, so a whole compartment gone one end and your storage cages gone the other...
    With unlimited funds suppose you could have a whole 'coach lookalike' vehicle scratchdesigned built or a built onto a very robust chassis ( container wagon ? or even a good excuse to pull a heritage Diesel apart perhaps ? )
     
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    Tyseley don't seem to have had a weight problem with their converted GUV but I don't remember the 6024 group's converted bogie tanker ever being 'used in anger'. That was the one where they intended to build a coach type body around the tank but don't think it ever got that far.
    Ray.
     
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    No problem, but adding the GUV means taking a coach off thus reducing the trains income by at least £600.
     
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    I had in mind interlinked tanks below floor level.
     
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    Presumably you mean £6000?

    Is a water carrier actually operationally necessary? Current range between water stops is probably about 60 - 80 miles with a bit of contingency. A water carrier might double that, but at cost - maybe worse than Ralph says, since the load is probably equivalent to two coaches. Is there any currently unusable itinerary that could be put in range with a water carrier but would be viable with the reduced income?

    Tom
     
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