NYMR Loco news

The Dame now has her own website http://www.dameveralynn.co.uk/

And contains links to the facebook page which has some photos of the work on the locomotive.

Of course more donations are always welcome

 

The Just Giving link takes one to a site referring to a "North Yorkshire Moors Railway" charity (with the registered number of the NYMHRT). Is this name used by the NYMHRT as a charity (rather than an umbrella name for the whole railway)? Does this mean that donations are made to the NYMHRT? Those behind the appeal may want to think about making it clear who owns the loco (the ownership history on the About DVL page seems to end with Clifford Brown - does he still own it?) / and how the funds flow to the project. Having a message from the GM of the railway or from the Chairman of the NYMHRT about how valuable the loco is etc may also help.

 

If I recall correctly Cliff Brown placed both Repton and Vera into a trust which is wholly controlled by The NYMHRT which is the parent company of the NYMR.

I believe the funds raised towards overhauling 3672 are being held in separate bank account.

Sawdust.

 

We were in Whitby for the Autumn gala last year, and while walking round the town heard 75029 arrive and depart. She really announced her presence - the exhaust and whistle could be heard hundreds of yards away.

You really know it when there is a steam loco in town, it sent shivers up and down the spine.

Dave

 

The 38xx tender is now at Llangollen. Is the rest following and what's the plans for it?

 

It had moved from previous home on far end of long siding to outside NELPG shed last Sunday. Llangollen for restoration is NYMR forum thoughts.

 

To me, a big selling point of the NYMR is that I can have classic steam AND diesel in the same day (my most recent visits offered an A4, Standard, Black 5, Cl.37 and Cl.24 on one day, then later in 2014 the Q6, Cl.25, Black 5 and visiting GWR 2-8-0 - superb variety), which to my personal tastes is much more appealing and better value for money than 100% one or the other*. For the last few years the steam situation has been tight enough that there's always been at least some diesel activity every day I've visited, but this thread suggests that'll change before too long. So if I want to enjoy pretty much every normal running day offering a diesel/steam mix, should I be getting back up there sooner rather than later? I'm happy with an NYMR trip either way - the views and gradients mean any heritage traction (OK, maybe not the DMU - nice to look at but doesn't stir me much entertainment-wise) is a brilliant experience there, but being able to get both diesel and steam in at the same time has been a strong selling point and one of the main reasons I made seven trips there across 2012-14 even though it's a hike from Devon.

* I realise 95% of casual visitors and NatPres members will disagree with me here!

 

Less than a fortnight after it arrived on the NYMR, 80136's boiler has passed its hydraulic test, so it is well on the way back, hopefully in time for the peak season when it will be much needed.

 

Not sure if it has been mentioned but for a change 80072 is currently facing North (Or it was yesterday)
Chance of some chimney first shots at the South end of the line for a bit of variety.

 

Is the Q7 owned by NELPG?

 

No, it's part of the national collection.

Sawdust.

 

Latest news on 80136 is that the first fire post overhaul is now in it, so presumably the official steam test is not far behind. Completion for the peak season beginning to look like a distinct possibility!

 

Brilliant, let's just hope it isn't at the expense of some of our other locos, eg 44806, repton, hartland and our standard tank. Still no news on the B1's wheels?!?!

 

3672 and 30926 are owned by the NYMHRT but subject to continued conditions to the original gift.

Any donation to a Charity for a specific purpose are "Restricted Funds" and must be applied for the purpose given. In many cases (including 3672) on the NYMR, they are held in a separate bank account, and it is the intention to extend this so there aren't mixed General and Restricted Funds accounts if at all possible.

However, whether cash and bank balances are held separately does not affect that funds given for a specific purpose are recorded and held in the books as Restricted until spent and any restrictions no longer apply.

Steven

 

Brilliant, let's just hope it isn't at the expense of some of our other locos, eg 44806, repton, hartland and our standard tank. Still no news on the B1's wheels?!?!

Being pragmatic, the NYMR needs more locos in traffic so its probably a question of working on whichever is quickest to get into use. 44806 needs more work than first expected on its new tender, so 80136 may overtake it if its easier. Also, its newly overhauled, rather than returning to service an engine approaching the end of its ticket.

From what I've heard the B1 shouldn't be too far behind but that is in the hands of Ian Riley rather than the NYMR. 30926 and 34101 were never expected to run this year (at least not since reality has begun to take root at Grosmont).

 

So another visit to the NYMR for an all steam return trip to Whitby, only to end up yet again with 1/3 steam 2/3 paraffin.

I understand the Grosmont - Whitby leg being diesel as the Q6 isnt fitted with whatever gismos are required for running on NR but does the 16.40 ex-Whitby ever run with steam to Pickering as advertised? Swapping one box for another at Grosmont on the return was particularly galling. And when i asked where the steam loco was, the guy looked at me gone out. "It's on the other train" was the best he could manage.

Anyone from NYMR who can shed some light on this apparent sharp practice?

 

Sorry for your disappointment today - the basic problem at the moment is a lack of serviceable steam locomotives. There are currently have 4 steam locos in working order, and the Red Timetable needs 4. Unfortunately, at the moment 45428 is on washout (having run an usually long time since the last washout) and 80072 was on water change. The later is complete and the loco will be out tomorrow and may work the 16:40 beyond Grosmont but I realise that probably makes it worse!

As you realised, only 76079 of the 2 locos in use today is mainline equipped, with 45428 being the other such loco at present.

Unfortunately, despite extensive searches, no other mainline equipped steam locomotives have been able to be hired this year. The position is not much brighter for hire of non-mainline locos, although I believe another hire loco may not be far off. 44806 is also nearing completion, with work progressing on 80136 but its return is a few weeks away yet.

Apologies again that you didn't have the planned traction today. Achieving this is a top priority but the hand of cards dealt to the Railway (particularly 75029 having to be withdrawn due to firebox wastage) has meant it remains a passionately sought aspiration I am afraid at the moment.

Steven

 

I do not know exactly what happened today, but the re timetable requires 4 stea: 2 Whitby locos, 2 NYMR only locos. The operational fleet currently stands at 4 steam (76079, 45428, 63395 and 80072), therefore 1 diesel is understandable, but I assume if only 2 steam were running today there must have been a failure, as 3 were running yesterday (45428, 76079 and 63395).

I think the main problem is that when the timetable is being written, there is always an overly optimistic approach taken. Really running 4 steam a day at the moment is un-realistic, and based on past knowledge of how long it takes to get locos from repairs to operational, 2/3 steam would be realistic, not 4. Although writing what is going to be diesel/steam in advance is almost impossible, as the exact diagrams almost changes daily based on what is available/what is necessary. Usually the best way to avoid diesels is to look at the NYMR diesel website which is usually fairly accurate about what the diesels will be doing. I do agree that whilst publishing what is steam what is diesel far in advance is almost impossible, it would be very helpful to show what is hauling what is hauling each train on the website as a interactive timetable.
Edit: Steven beat me to it!

 

I can think of at least one NR passed steam loco in full working order currently on a heritage railway which has more serviceable locos than it really needs. I can only assume that the owners don't want to hire it out...?

 

A NR registered loco would only be of use to the NYMR is it were permitted to run to Whitby - which I suspect may not be the case for the one you are thinking of (if it is the same one I'm thinking of!). There is still hope that the B1 will return to service some time this year, which would bolster the NR fleet.