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7027 Thornbury Castle

Discussie in 'Steam Traction' gestart door svrhunt, 18 jan 2015.

  1. Sidmouth

    Sidmouth Resident of Nat Pres Staff Member Moderator

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    Nick

    the new owner is on Facebook and has been quite open about where the loco is going as well as future plans as they are now. also judging by posts enjoyed a day with 5043 today

    The loco will move to Weston Super Mare as mentioned below and then to Tyseley for overhaul
     
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    To be clear on the new owner: http://crosvillemotorservices.co.uk...steam-loco-to-be-displayed-at-crosville-rally
    "The event takes place on Sunday September 11th 2016 and No 7027 will be displayed on a short section of track within our bus depot in Winterstoke Road. The loco, as yet unrestored, was purchased recently by JJP Holdings South West (Crosville's parent company) and will initially share space with our bus fleet before moving to Tyesley Locomotive Works where most of the restoration work will take place."
     
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    First Castle allocated to Weston since 5024 in 1948.
     
  4. GWR4707

    GWR4707 Nat Pres stalwart

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    Matt37401 Nat Pres stalwart

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    I didn't realise 4936 had been sold either according to the above. :confused::confused:
     
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    Just for the record, who does own Kinlet Hall then? I haven't a clue :/
     
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    He's a director of "KINLET HALL LOCOMOTIVE CO. LIMITED" which is far from owner (technically that is the company). Is he majority shareholder now though?
     
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    Looks like it if you have a trawl through what @Paul42 has posted
     
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  13. Pete Thornhill

    Pete Thornhill Resident of Nat Pres Staff Member Administrator Moderator Friend

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    Partly my point, has the majority shareholding grown since then was what I was getting at.
     
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    Gents , does it actually matter what % is owned or otherwise . That is essentially a private matter

    He is in the fortunate position to do what many of us dream about doing and that is indulging a passion for vintage transport and i'm sure with a commercial eye . My lottery win dream was 7027 so I'm genuinely pleased she now has a future and knowing some of those involved it will be a bright future which is something to be celebrated and for us all to get behind , offer our help , goodwill and support
     
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    huochemi Part of the furniture

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    Seems a matter of legitimate interest to me, or are you encouraging the debate to switch to what colour it is to be painted? ;)
    Limited company and shareholder info is in the public domain, which is part of the deal for taking advantage of limited liability protection.
     
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    My guidance to you and all who wish to have this discussion is that owner engagement is always better achieved by how we support the engine rather than by questioning who owns what or what colour ....
     
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    On that basis there is a comparatively detailed piece in SR this month regarding 7027, and for all those showing concern it also clarifies the ownership of Kinlet Hall.

    There is also an email address to contact the owner if you want to assist in the process of restoration (or more likely moan about livery or something ;)) all very transparent.
     
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  18. Jonathan Jones Pratt

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    Afternoon,

    I have being keeping tabs on recent and past posts most with some interest, no doubt this was something that I would understand would occur/develop and would no doubt become a topic for discussion!

    The vision with 7027 is one of pure dedication and desire to see the last remaining Castle class engine out running again, one that will be supported by close friends and colleagues with the hard work and dedication needed to make this project a success! We have been working on this project for over 18 months now and can assure you that the press release was released as a factual representation of where we stand today. I believe the information provided on 7027 explains exactly our position and ownership of the engine. We will see the old girl returning to WSM this week we hope, I will be away to load her on Friday.

    Now onto 4936 - Kinlet Hall, this a engine I have been involved with for sometime and of which have sat actively as a daily board member (director), a influenced decision made of one of the reasons she returned to the WSR as a resident engine. Namely as this is where i reside as fireman, 4936 has seen a exciting past and all credit goes to Peter Weaver and his team, who without them have saved the old girl. One person quite right noted my 25% share holding in the engine, of which this has now evolved to 100% ownership. The direction on completion of the 100% share holding and ownership of both 4936 and KHL Ltd as a company that we would conclude in a sensitive fashion and whilst I now own the engine, the vision is very much to keep the working structure of the group together and ensure we keep that team together. I do read some of the posts with tinted glasses, whilst we live in a day of age when persons are able to engage with the wider audience ...... Namely internet forums to express views, comments etc. One may chose to step back and consider feelings of individuals. Some of the older boys that make up '4936' have been with that engine for over 40 years, those people i respect and this is why i believe the correct way is not to effectively push speculation under persons noses. My comments to SR were brief on the discussion of 4936, but one feeling i was clear on is that the ownership of Kinlet Hall is one that i am very proud of and will be fully committed to pushing a fast track overhaul post October 2016, some may consider that if such purchase wasn't progress then Kinlet may have been left at some place no other then a head shunt on a Railway awaiting the hope of a glimmer of cash to bank roll her through ready for pastures new. The facts are clear the decision was made that JJP holdings would purchase 4936 to ensure and protect her future, and to ensure and give back another chance for the current group to enjoy her again. I do take slight hindrance that some would challenge my comments say in SR as with any press release one would hope we could report on something like the ownership of the engine would be correct. This to confirm is correct...................

    I wouldn't normally reply in such way but I have in the hope that we can put a end to the speculation and I ask that you get behind the two projects and share with us in the future the fun and excitement these two old ladies will bring.

    Finally for the record companies house will update accordingly but its unlikely you will see any changes for the next 6 months, the updating system can be very slow!

    Thank you for reading this and it is our direction that we share our news as things progress, do keep in touch if you have any questions! Or better still come down to our open day on the 11th!

    Jonathan Jones-Pratt
    Chairman
    JJP holdings SW Ltd
     
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    Welcome to the forum and thank you for the detailed reply, looking forward to to the fun and excitement and am sure you will get plenty of support here.
     
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    Thanks Jonathan. This should give you an idea of what 7027 should look like, in case you are wondering what bits are missing. Here seen in June 1974 at Tyseley with some period motor cars in the background. Taken on an ancient folding Zeiss Ikon, and it was hit and miss what came out without an exposure meter. You can have a bigger image if you pm me.
    Cheers
    Robin Gibbons
     

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