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LNER V2s at Swindon Works.

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  1. Martin Perry

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    I have seen several photos of LNER V2s at Swindon Works; 13 of them arrived for scrapping during 1964 I believe. None of the photos show any tenders though, were they separated on arrival or did they travel without them? Were these tenders reused, either as snowploughs or other departmental uses, or just scrapped separately?
     
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    Pretty sure some, if not all were rebuilt as snowploughs. As for the locos, being scrapped is bad enough but for an LNER thoroughbred to be scrapped at Swindon.....
     
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    Too right Swindon would scrap it, they established such things were inferior in 1925 :D
     
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    So were the tenders converted at Swindon?
     
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    I wonder if there are any photos of the locos en route to Swindon? Even then it must have been something very ususual.
     
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    Not unique though. It took me by surprise to see Cromford & High Peak resident J94 68012 at Newport (Monmouth) for scrapping. We had a thread on this forum some years back about locos scrapped a long way from home. Just as the LNER V2s went to Swindon, so some GWR Kings went to Kettering for scrapping.
     
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    Didn't some GW loco's go for scrap in Norwich?
     
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    One of the few occasions Swindon would have seen a decent loco. :)
     
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    Presume you're on about Dukedogs.
     
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    From recollection the majority (5 of the 9) of the 47xx were scrapped at Kings in Norwich.

    Edit - actually looking on here a fair bit of GWR stuff was scrapped at Kings. http://www.railuk.info/steam/getscrap.php?item=KIN
     
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    Yeah keep pretending that the exchange of 1925 didn't happen :D
     
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    Looking at this http://www.railuk.info/steam/getscrap.php?id=93 and I know scrapping records are notoriously rubbish, most of the V2's that ended up at Swindon seem to have come from NE sheds (Gateshead and Darlington for instance), seems very odd that there were moved so far for disposal and one would expect someone to have photographed them on the move?
     
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    Oh it happened and HNG didn't hesitate to learn from the experience. Unfortunately Swindon didn't learn a lot from the LNER practices and kept on churning out basically the same old, same old such that a senior GWR man remarked that the GWR had nothing to touch "Seagull" during her sojourn on the GW during the 1948 exchanges.
     
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    No urge to go through it all again as it is ancient history and never understand how people can get so agitated about pre-nationalised companies as the vast majority that do seem particularly vexed do not have even been born when the companies vanished . however if it aint broken why spend money fixing it, bet the GWR shareholders were pleased that money wasn't being spent whilst the dividends rolled in!
     
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    Indeed. Another oddity of many.
     
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    The scrapping sites of many commercial places is odd: a mile up the line from Springs Branch shed was Central Wagon Works, Wigan, which scrapped many a GWR engine. Meanwhile, several withdrawn Springs Branch locos ended up in South Wales (mind you, I'm glad that was the case for at least one of them!). But you would think that BR depots would be more logical, unless it was case of one works being over-utilised and another under-utilised, and this was merely to spread the workload.
     
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    Can you quote some provenance for "a senior GWR man remarked that the GWR had nothing to touch "Seagull" during her sojourn on the GW during the 1948 exchanges."
     
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    One that has always intrigued me (a bit) is Cox and Danks at Oldbury who scrapped 11 Kings 1 Castle and nothing else, although I wonder whether this was due to the proximity to Wolverhampton Stafford Road where I suspect the kings may have been withdrawn and thus could be a case of decisions being reached on geographical necessity?
     
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