North Staffordshire 0-6-2T

There are lots of pre grouping railways not represented at all, why just single out one relative minor railways łocomotive.

As was stated up thread a review is currently being undertaken why not wait to see what is to happen with No28 (and others) before criticizing/comparing with the NS 0-6-2T.

You keep going on about how amateurish the process appears just because it was announced incorrectly but does that invalidate the whole process, when up thread it was also discussed that a long review was undertaken before the decision was taken. Besides do we know that that Facebook posting simply did not jump the gun before a official announcement was made - seams more likely to me.

So I agree with you the announcement could have been better handled, I do not agree with you over the way the process was handled, they have to make difficult decisions and to be quite frank the Mr Angry enthusiast going on and on over his/her pet locomotive probably does not help the process. I also assume all this is fueled by some jumped up journalist looking for a story that really is not there.

 

I hope you lot are going to invoice SR for all the time you are spending providing stories for them over the next 4 months?

 

They would be pretty stupid to base any story on the amateur musings on here - oh hang on a bit.

 

Well this is a forum for enthusiasts and preservationists. It seems like a good place for us to discuss both what has happened with the NSR loco and what might happen with the rest of the review.

We could wait for the outcome of the review, by which time the deed will have been done, or we can air our views on the principles that we think could be applied to such a review.

I don't expect for a minute that our amateur musings will influence the NRM's decision making, but I can't see the harm in having a grown-up discussion.

 

I have no beef with the Foxfield (site of the ongoing restoration of a rake of Knotty carriages) but I must confess I'd rather see the 0-6-2 back at Cheddleton, where it spent quite some time back in the 90s.

I wonder if the NRM will take the same attitude to the battery-powered Knotty 0-4-0 that used to be based at Oakamoor and whether, if they were to decide that it is also surplus to requirements, they might deign to speak to the CVR about it?

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for discussions on here that's what any Newsgroup is for, my comment was squarly aimed at those journalists who farm such forums for stories, when all you have on here are opinions from bystanders who may only have 1/2 the story (like me!).

 

The jumped up journalist refers to my experience with some of them and their arrogance nothing more or less.

The NRM have decided for whatever reason to move it to another organization and have no more responsibility for it, it has now been given to another organisation which is a registered charity that will take care of it and restore it, what's not to like about that, what do you want to happen - for it to go on the open market to the highest bidder?

 

I know but I did say "The NRM have decided for whatever reason to move it to another organization and have no more responsibility for it" now my take on this is they must be doing this to cut down on their workload, and there is very probably a political element to this (Cuts, Cuts & More Cuts) hence much earlier I suggested you speak to your MP. I'd not hold my breath on that one at the mo though.

 

It does, but unless anyone from the NRM makes any statement why that decision has come about we are all just guessing.

 

And I thought this was a discussion group, however nowhere have I said I knew exactly why they made the decision they made, and all I did was made assumptions based on the little info that was out there (but it also helped that I had past dealings with NRM staff many years ago & this gave a small insight in how they think). It's very easy, turn off the enthusiast in you and try and put yourself in their shoes - try it you may come to the same conclusions as me!

 

So if you put aside for now "the unknown reason that they no longer consider it to be essential for the collection" (we both know you don't but stick with it) what are you looking for instead of the loco being "given away"?

 

My last word on this as you obviously choose not to get it, there are still management costs even for any loaned item and they have restricted funds now.