If you register, you can do a lot more. And become an active part of our growing community. You'll have access to hidden forums, and enjoy the ability of replying and starting conversations.

Tornado to haul certain timetabled trains on S&C: Feb 14-16

Тема в разделе 'What's Going On', создана пользователем GWR4707, 13 янв 2017.

  1. malc

    malc Part of the furniture

    Дата регистрации:
    28 июн 2005
    Сообщения:
    2.475
    Симпатии:
    330
    The southbound trains that were on RTT were timed at 45 mph.
     
  2. 1020 Shireman

    1020 Shireman Part of the furniture Friend

    Дата регистрации:
    31 июл 2013
    Сообщения:
    2.858
    Симпатии:
    2.749
    Пол:
    Мужской
    Род занятий:
    Relaxingly retired
    Адрес:
    Deep in the country
    I understand from a friend in the know - he's rarely wrong - that Tornado will be working at the head of the trains in both directions, chimney first from Skipton and tender first from Appleby. The 67 should be unmanned and will be used solely for electrical power and ETH for the Air Con Mk2s.
     
    rule55 нравится это.
  3. sycamore

    sycamore Member

    Дата регистрации:
    17 авг 2009
    Сообщения:
    596
    Симпатии:
    238
    Пол:
    Мужской
    Род занятий:
    Guard & Signalman (E&BAR) / Driver (HVMR)
    Адрес:
    Embsay or Bolton Abbey, sometimes in between...
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    would be surprised if is left unmanned with the engine running???!!!
     
  4. Big Al

    Big Al Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator

    Дата регистрации:
    30 май 2009
    Сообщения:
    22.592
    Симпатии:
    22.725
    Адрес:
    1016
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Don't we just go around in circles on here at times? I said that way back in #12 but I'm glad that it's been reconfirmed! :)
     
  5. malc

    malc Part of the furniture

    Дата регистрации:
    28 июн 2005
    Сообщения:
    2.475
    Симпатии:
    330
    I think 67s can be unmanned in this sort of situation. I think one of the requirements to allow this is for the loco to be fitting with automatic fire fighting equipment.
     
  6. 5944

    5944 Resident of Nat Pres

    Дата регистрации:
    14 янв 2006
    Сообщения:
    8.863
    Симпатии:
    9.273
    Пол:
    Мужской
    Род занятий:
    Train Maintainer for GTR at Hornsey
    Адрес:
    Letchworth
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Only when being driven from another vehicle eg DVT. As it'll be idling, it will have to be manned. Driver can sit there with his feet up the whole time though.
     
  7. GWR4707

    GWR4707 Nat Pres stalwart

    Дата регистрации:
    12 май 2006
    Сообщения:
    19.232
    Симпатии:
    17.566
    Пол:
    Мужской
    Адрес:
    Cumbria
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Doesn't post #106 confirm that the southbound runs are pathed at 45mph confirming tender first running?

    Edit - someone beat me to this.

    Looking at another post above if its going to be Mk2 air cons the noise of the 67 won't make a huge difference as you won't really be able to hear the loco working anyway from inside the stock.
     
  8. GWR4707

    GWR4707 Nat Pres stalwart

    Дата регистрации:
    12 май 2006
    Сообщения:
    19.232
    Симпатии:
    17.566
    Пол:
    Мужской
    Адрес:
    Cumbria
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Any ideas where the stock is coming from, is it likely to be a uniform rake or a rag tag of liveries?
     
  9. LMarsh1987

    LMarsh1987 Part of the furniture Friend

    Дата регистрации:
    19 июн 2013
    Сообщения:
    2.972
    Симпатии:
    3.917
    Пол:
    Мужской
    Род занятий:
    TBC
    Адрес:
    Birmingham & Arley
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Be nice if they could get the LSL set !
     
  10. GWR4707

    GWR4707 Nat Pres stalwart

    Дата регистрации:
    12 май 2006
    Сообщения:
    19.232
    Симпатии:
    17.566
    Пол:
    Мужской
    Адрес:
    Cumbria
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    I wonder whether it may be a DRS rake as DRS are already providing stock to northern for the Cumbrian Coast job with the 37's, at least its in a uniform and comparatively neutral livery, but would DRS operate another rolling stock - my fear is it may end up being the set which is sometimes around which is a mix of ex Virgin and ex Anglian stock which is hardly going to be good advert for mainline steam!
     
    lewis.maddox нравится это.
  11. sycamore

    sycamore Member

    Дата регистрации:
    17 авг 2009
    Сообщения:
    596
    Симпатии:
    238
    Пол:
    Мужской
    Род занятий:
    Guard & Signalman (E&BAR) / Driver (HVMR)
    Адрес:
    Embsay or Bolton Abbey, sometimes in between...
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    from a passenger perspective it probably doesn't matter about livery!!! opening windows however is a different matter... :)
     
  12. GWR4707

    GWR4707 Nat Pres stalwart

    Дата регистрации:
    12 май 2006
    Сообщения:
    19.232
    Симпатии:
    17.566
    Пол:
    Мужской
    Адрес:
    Cumbria
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Normally I would agree with you wholeheartedly (I do agree about the problem if sealed mk2's are used), however in terms of the exterior coating my only thought is that this is likely to get some media coverage and also be used for promotional materials etc and thus I can imagine how good it will look as Tornado crosses Batty Moss filmed from a helicopter looking like she is pulling a rake of stock coloured in by a group of toddlers who had a set of pencils and were going to make sure they used them all!
     
    35B, 26D_M, MellishR и ещё 1-му нравится это.
  13. 68923

    68923 Member

    Дата регистрации:
    6 авг 2013
    Сообщения:
    509
    Симпатии:
    360
    Пол:
    Мужской
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Times now back on RTT including running round.
     
  14. 1020 Shireman

    1020 Shireman Part of the furniture Friend

    Дата регистрации:
    31 июл 2013
    Сообщения:
    2.858
    Симпатии:
    2.749
    Пол:
    Мужской
    Род занятий:
    Relaxingly retired
    Адрес:
    Deep in the country
    Too many posts to go back through but has anyone found out what the ticket buying process is? No sign yet of Northern Rail selling Plandampf Season Tickets. Can we just buy 6 off-peak returns??
     
  15. dmhodge

    dmhodge New Member

    Дата регистрации:
    13 сен 2008
    Сообщения:
    14
    Симпатии:
    3
    Пол:
    Мужской
    Род занятий:
    Retired
    Адрес:
    Kirkby Stephen
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    I am informed that the details for purchasing tickets will be made later today/early tomorrow.
     
  16. 68923

    68923 Member

    Дата регистрации:
    6 авг 2013
    Сообщения:
    509
    Симпатии:
    360
    Пол:
    Мужской
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Looks like we are waiting for Northern Rail to catch up. For example on their website you can book tickets Leeds-Appleby on the "normal" 9.56 from Leeds which they say gives an onward connection to the first Tornado train at Skipton. The extra 09.47 from Leeds (1M53), (which is the advertised connection on the publicity info) does not yet exist according to Northern. I suppose all will be clear soon?
     
  17. worldsteam

    worldsteam Member

    Дата регистрации:
    27 мар 2006
    Сообщения:
    220
    Симпатии:
    47
    I assumed the Tornado trains were removed from the database for 24 hours as it gives rise to this confusion. So I'm surprised the database has them back. The 09:47 isn't an extra, that is the regular train which remains on the Northern (and other) database, but terminating Skipton. In theory there is a connection off the 09:56 into Tornado. In practice remains to be seen! I remain perplexed how all this will be 'managed'!
     
  18. 68923

    68923 Member

    Дата регистрации:
    6 авг 2013
    Сообщения:
    509
    Симпатии:
    360
    Пол:
    Мужской
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    You are quite right-the 09:47 is the regular train, sorry for my mistake. It just doesn't appear on the Northern booking pages if you try to book through from Leeds to Appleby, but does appear if you want to book Leeds to Skipton! I'm still confused and will now go for a lie down.....
     
  19. GWR4707

    GWR4707 Nat Pres stalwart

    Дата регистрации:
    12 май 2006
    Сообщения:
    19.232
    Симпатии:
    17.566
    Пол:
    Мужской
    Адрес:
    Cumbria
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    If northern deal with this with their normal efficiency I don't have any great hopes for the operational and administrative success of the trains, for the true northern experience the ticket machines must not work, the heating will either be boiling or non-operational, the toilets will be locked out of use and you won't be able to see out of the window due to dirt and/or condensation....

    (just a little exasperated as my last three journeys with them are all presently subject to delay repayment claims whilst one late last year is now subject to regulator investigation!)
     
  20. LMarsh1987

    LMarsh1987 Part of the furniture Friend

    Дата регистрации:
    19 июн 2013
    Сообщения:
    2.972
    Симпатии:
    3.917
    Пол:
    Мужской
    Род занятий:
    TBC
    Адрес:
    Birmingham & Arley
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    SR mag states Riveria MK2 blue & grey set !
     
    sycamore нравится это.

Поделиться этой страницей