Krupp TE-class 2-8-0

I've seen some photographs of these handsome locomotives on Iraqi state railways, where they appear to have been used extensively alongside Stanier 8Fs. They were reportedly built in the 1950s - but aside from that, I have been unable to ascertain anything. Can anyone here fill me in?

 

In respect of Krupp they built 7 locos (w/n 3585-3591) - 3 were shipped 28/8/1956, 2 on 25/9/1956 and the final two (plus a spare boiler) on 15/10/1956. They were ordered by the UK Crown Agents for Overseas Governments and Administrations on behalf of the Iraqi State Railways and were numbered 1441-1447.

They were Standard Gauge, 2 cylinder (19¾x28") 2-8-0s relatively similar in vital statistics to the Class TD (ex-LMS 8F), so were presumably used on equivalent duties.

No idea if others were built by other companies.

Barry

 

Right! Any idea if any are preserved? Do you know what boiler pressure they employed, or the driving wheel diameter?

 

You may do better to join the Continental Railway Circle Yahoo group. Almost certainly someone will point you in the right direction.

 

56 1/2 inch drivers, BP 225psi - very doubtful any are preserved, if that is the right word to use for Iraq.

Some good colour shots here :
http://gwrarchive.org/site/sitel2pg/Iraq/sg/sg.php

barry

 

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Thanks!

Reading General, I presume you mean the RSH Pacific? Somewhat let down by its narrow firebox and 5'9" drivers surely render its streamlining rather redundant... it'd be like streamlining a K3! Wait, didn't someone propose that at some point?!

 

still wow though....

 

Surely the barrow firebox wasn't such an issue with oil firing?
Magnificent beasts, weren't they?

 

I would be absolutely delighted to discover that one of these still survives somewhere in Iraq.

Cheers,

Alan

 

I suspect you'll wait in vain for that discovery. That said - new build, anybody?! What became of RSH's collection of drawings?

 

iasn't it amazing how few people respond to posts about foreign locos... this is one of the most interesting threads in recent times. I learnt all about the TE class never mond the streamlined thingy

 

Perhaps that is because few people have any knowledge about the subject matter. I agree that it is a really interesting thread and I too have learned from it, but I, probably like many others reading it, have nothing to contribute as it is an area of the world I know little about railway wise.

Peter James

 

Vulcan built some amazing looking locos for the Egyptians too... wonder if any of that is still around?! The 2-6-2 and 2-6-4 tanks, and the 2-6-0s, were notably good-looking.

 

amazed to hear there are still yahoo groups going.

 

Sadly, I believe none survive. Neither do any of the extremely handsome post-war Atlantics. There is a sectioned one from an earlier class, I think.

 

There are still steam locos going....!

 

true but which is more up to date?

 

Andrew, which Atlantics were those? I've not found anything on that.

 

Whoops - correction - the VF Egyptian locos were a kind of simplified 8F (parallel boiler etc, kind of like a Dub Dee). The 4-6-0, 2-6-2T and 2-6-4T were NBL. The 2-6-0s were mainly Armstrong Whitworth. Henschel built some, along with their own (British-outline) 2-6-2T and a small o-8-0T dock shunter. They also had some LSWR Adams 0395 0-6-0s and GCR Robinson O4 2-8-0s.