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Buffers of L.M.S. locomotives

Dieses Thema im Forum 'Steam Traction' wurde von 240P15 gestartet, 13 Dezember 2017.

  1. Steve

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    Not disagreeing on the aesthetics (becasue I don't know) but you rarely come across sharp reverse curves on running lines, which is where buffer locking is likely. Such sharp reverse curves with no intervening straight generally occur in yards, including loco sheds and works and Duchesses would be shunted around in such places as much as any loco.
     
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    Just noticed the Class 43 (HST, 125) power cars that received buffer beam conversions and are now run by Grand Central also have oval buffers (corrected after feedback)
     
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  3. Chris86

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    I presume for the same reason quite a lot of industrial locos have large buffers.

    Chris
     
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    Do you mean Grand Central?
     
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    Yes ... I'll correct the original ... thx
     
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    other shapes are available;
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  7. LMS2968

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    Puts Gordon to shame...
     
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    The L&YR derived 4-6-4Ts had oval buffers, rather pointed at the ends. The 4-6-0 from which they were developed had circular buffers. Perhaps the tanks were so fitted due to the trailing end overhang?
     
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    Found photo of brit with oval buffers and class 40 locos had oval buffers.
     

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    Mighty locomotives these L&YR 4-6-4Ts!

    Another locomotive from L&YR with oval buffers is the class 32. I`m not an expert but these engines seems to have a long overhang: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8d/L&YR_class_32,_1505.jpg

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    Yes, I'd forgotten about those! They were classed as bank engines, but would also do much shunting in yards with tight curvature.
     
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    IMHO I think that oval shaped buffers are aesthetically pleasing
     
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    They're oval as well. Double whammy!

    Tom
     
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    I believe their performance was pretty good - at least David L Smith says the G&SW enginemen liked them, which is high praise indeed.
    But they were expensive to build, expensive to maintain, and expensive to operate. LMS 2-6-4Ts did the job more economically. So bye bye Baltics.
     

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