Winter CME Trips 2018

Some views are its not as popular now its not always Double headed - when the heating was very 'iffy' last year they moved us into a totally empty First Class Carriage. It looks like 9 + kitchen + support based on the ticket.

 

Having had the pleasure of a trip to Workington and back with Northern yesterday (153 unit out - pacer back) with no heating either way I can say that train heating is grossly over rated!

Interestingly in light of much of the tone of this wider thread that tour is still advertising 6024, despite it being fairly common knowledge that she is highly unlikely to be ready for it....

 

And me..

 

I agree Al but of you look at what James wrote last night in the 35018 thread it reads that the charter promoter does not always heed, in the advertising, what the TOC tells them.
The onus rests entirely on the promoter to ensure its adverts remain current and do not purport to offer something which cannot be met. In the age of online advertising and booking it really ought not to present too great a challenge.

 

Unless the promoter has been given some assurance on the availability it should not be advertising currently non operational traction as an incentive to book.

 

Me an' all . .

 

I will sport a hat or two on the lineside in respect !!!

 

This is a forum for commenting, it takes two or more to perpetuate a discussion Alan. You will note that I am very much in the 'responder' category when it comes to topics of debate but if nothing else crops up we will leave it there so as to appease your obvious disenchantment.

 

I struggle a bit with that. The Tour Operator is at once the customer of the TOC and the provider to the traveller. As a customer of the TOC the tour company is buying the services of the TOC and has a right to know what they are paying for well in advance so as to inform their customers to whom they sell tickets.

 

Too many times, and as sure as night follows day...............things will never change. Rail road or air transport nobody can foresee a problem arising with the motive power

 

Nobody takes issue with those unforseen events you cite, we all know they happen and are unavoidable.
What is less reasonable, is marketing something which has a high probability of not proving possible, particularly if, as it seems, the TOC is either ignored or not consulted before tickets are offered.
I know this will prompt a barrage of abuse, but I do think some folk have remarkably hypocritical blind spots when I see the perfectly reasonable gripes about other shoddy practices but not this. Especially when some posters know the ads are a probably wrong but don't call it out to help their fellow enthusiasts.

 

Ahhh Whats Shep gonna wear lol

 

Maybe when business practice improves we will stop making reference to the matter.

 

Well said Ralph that sums it up in a couple of sentences.

 

Would be of help if you could suggest to whom he should direct his wittering as you kindly put it...

 

The contact details of WCRC, RTC et al are well publicised on their respective websites so if people want to sent complaints, they know where to look. Assuming of course that they've the balls to do it rather than whinging on about it here.

 

Really??? It is a discussion forum. But it is well evidenced that you are intolerant of opinions that vary from those of your own.

For the record I have a 100% success rate at obtaining refunds when tour operator(s) have miss-sold. Obvious exceptions being those where a last minute failure has occurred.