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Dominion of Canada and Potential Disposal Story/Rumour

Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by 242A1, Oct 15, 2018.

  1. std tank

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    Wrong word been mentioned? Don't buy the S#n!!
     
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    I think you might have missed a degree of subtlety there, as Copper-capped has pointed out.
     
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    I honestly have no idea :confused: read it again, if it’s subtle it’s very subtle!

    The problem with the internet, as always, is tone...
     
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    That is why my preferred internet tone is B#.
     
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    Which sounds, of course, exactly like C yet sometimes it is correct to write it as B#. Subtle indeed.
     
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  6. The Green Howards

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    I'll stick with 440Hz. Easier on the ears than 1kHz.
     
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    I think the answer to this is "cool", or similar. All of us here admire Spitfires(*)but I wonder how many on the aeroplane forum would admit to liking steam locomotives.

    There is also, for a potential investor, the "magnet" effect. Tell the chaps in the office that you spent this years bonus on a Spitfire(*) and you are instantly one of the few. Cool, brave and dashing, and Julia from marketing will throw her knickers at you. Tell them you spent it on a steam train and you'll be not cool, not dashing, and only Clive from Systems Development will offer you undergarments
     
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    I’m on some aircraft forums and in the general photography sections there’s quite a few people who post railway pictures, especially steam.
     
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    Back on topic. 440hz = A4
     
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    So on an instrument with digital tuning to the equal temperament system that is the same as b♭ - I'm not going to lie, I didn't know about temperaments and had to look it up, after a vague recollection of my piano teacher telling me that people with perfect pitch would hear c and b# differently.
     
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    440hz is the A above Middle C and the fourth A from the bottom of a standard 88 key piano. Therefore it’s A4.

    C and B# are exactly the same pitch on a piano or on most fretted instruments. Looking at a piano you’ll see no ‘black note’ between B and C therefore B# can only be the same as C. Singers and players of non-fretted instruments (e.g. violins, brass, woodwind) have infinitely variable pitch and can therefore differentiate slightly between C and B# if they want but probably no-one else will notice.
     
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    The subject of tunings and temperaments is almost unbelievably complicated. The more you find about about it the more the brain hurts...
     
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    Does discussion of temperament of musical scales in a thread about a particular locomotive (and without mentioning its chime whistle) qualify for this year's extreme thread drift award?
     
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    Well you have my sincere apologies for misconstruing your original post. :oops:
     
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    Considering I made a god awful throw away pun and it brought the music nerds out, yes!
     
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    That was unintended...! :eek:

    I knew 440Hz was 'A' - but not specifically A4.

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    This is definitely a NatPres Thread drift I didn’t see coming ...

    What frequencies does a chime whistle operate at?

    Tom
     

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