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Rasprava u 'Steam Traction' pokrenuta od Maunsell man, 1. Siječanj 2019..

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  1. M59137

    M59137 Well-Known Member

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    Is one allowed to just "tell" a haulage company to scrap a vehicle with asbestos content, when said vehicle was presumably only there on a storage basis? Only asking through general interest...

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    M59137, 29. Siječanj 2019.
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  2. estwdjhn

    estwdjhn Member

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    I'd imagine one is allowed to do such a thing. This said, one might get a significant invoice in the post as a consequence...
     
    estwdjhn, 30. Siječanj 2019.
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  3. The Green Howards

    The Green Howards Nat Pres stalwart

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    From whom? A scrap processor or m'learned friends?
     
    The Green Howards, 30. Siječanj 2019.
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  4. marshall5

    marshall5 Part of the furniture

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    Possibly the haulage company saw this as the only way to get paid. I doubt the 'A' word was mentioned....
    It is interesting that there have been no updates on Stuart's latest scheme to restore Chequerbent station since wishing everyone a Happy New Year https://www.facebook.com/The-Bolton...way-Station-Project-702112580160786/?ref=py_c
    I know the area reasonably well having been born in Bolton and can't think of a less suitable base for a heritage railway. The station was in a cutting which is partially filled and at the bottom of a 1 in 19 incline which was notoriously difficult to work.
    Chequerbent bank.jpg
    Ray.
     
    marshall5, 30. Siječanj 2019.
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  5. weltrol

    weltrol Part of the furniture Friend

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    Probably both....
     
    weltrol, 30. Siječanj 2019.
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  6. weltrol

    weltrol Part of the furniture Friend

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    weltrol, 30. Siječanj 2019.
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  7. MellishR

    MellishR Resident of Nat Pres Friend

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    The only plausible offer would be "We'll take it away for £x,000".
     
    MellishR, 30. Siječanj 2019.
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  8. Sidmouth

    Sidmouth Resident of Nat Pres Staff Member Moderator

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    I presume in his email address Stuart has just told us his birthday
     
    Sidmouth, 30. Siječanj 2019.
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    Cambrian55 Member Friend

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    And some people wonder how their personal details become public knowledge. o_O
     
    Cambrian55, 30. Siječanj 2019.
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  10. estwdjhn

    estwdjhn Member

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    Out of interest, if it does go for scrap, are there are any parts (fittings, running gear, doors etc) which potentially have value to other groups (possibly even to the extent of offsetting some of the scrapping costs).
     
    estwdjhn, 30. Siječanj 2019.
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  11. ghost

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    I suspect that Stuart has received a final demand type letter from the haulage company and has told them to take the sleeper for scrap as payment. I doubt if many companies would accept this - I think they would say it is up to the owner to scrap the vehicle and then pay their bills from whatever the scrapman gives (if anything).
    Whether the company is aware of the asbestos is another question - if they don't, then that could open up another can of worms as I think it is a legal requirement to inform? I think the asbestos issue is going to give Stuart headaches for some time to come - if only he had asked for advice on this forum and actually listened to it...

    To take your thinking a little further - if the body was removed and scrapped (obviously a costly exercise given the asbestos issue), perhaps the entire underframe could be sold to progress a grounded body project.

    Keith
     
    ghost, 31. Siječanj 2019.
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    Having been heavily involved in various projects regarding asbestos in buildings, there will be a duty of care on the haulier to make their own investigations to their own satisfaction whatever the owner has told them, ultimately they will have a DoC for their own staff, especially if its been then stored in their yard. If they are a reputable company (not doubting they are, just don't know who they are) they will have their paperwork watertight before they touched the thing.
     
    GWR4707, 31. Siječanj 2019.
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  13. 61624

    61624 Part of the furniture

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    To take your thinking a little further - if the body was removed and scrapped (obviously a costly exercise given the asbestos issue), perhaps the entire underframe could be sold to progress a grounded body project.

    Keith[/QUOTE]

    It's a 70ft body on 6w bogies - I don't think there are any grounded bodies anywhere in need of an underframe of this length or 6w bogies. There was a proposal at one time to rebuild it as an LMS 12w restaurant car. Daft as it sounds it might be the most plausible use for it, even though it would probably mean an all- new body rather than reworking what is left
     
    61624, 31. Siječanj 2019.
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  14. Sheff

    Sheff Resident of Nat Pres

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    Unless he's hatching a plan to build a new Derby Type 2?
     
    Sheff, 31. Siječanj 2019.
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  15. Jamessquared

    Jamessquared Nat Pres stalwart

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    Jamessquared, 31. Siječanj 2019.
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  16. Sheff

    Sheff Resident of Nat Pres

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    Sheff, 31. Siječanj 2019.
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  17. Jamessquared

    Jamessquared Nat Pres stalwart

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    Ouch!

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    Jamessquared, 31. Siječanj 2019.
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  18. DR73202

    DR73202 New Member

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    These sleeping cars have 4 wheel bogies not 6.
     
    DR73202, 31. Siječanj 2019.
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  19. Richard Roper

    Richard Roper Well-Known Member

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    Arrrrgggh! no, don't rattle his cage! He'll be back with yet another completely f*ckwitted venture!

    Richard.
     
    Richard Roper, 31. Siječanj 2019.
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  20. marshall5

    marshall5 Part of the furniture

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    He already is! See post #104.
    Ray.
     
    marshall5, 31. Siječanj 2019.
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