The Wensleydale 6/04/19

gricerdon · 7 April 2019

Zitat von Oswald T Wistle: ↑

The Wensleydale 06 April 2019 – 48151 & 35018 British India Line hauling POB+9

Like many “one off” trips this one suffered several changes from the one advertised. Whilst the starting point remained Carnforth and the destination the Wensleydale Railway, the pick up at Leeds was replaced by Woodlesford and the tour planned to terminate at Leyburn rather than Redmire. The “promised” two Jubilees (RTC email 20 Feb) became the unusual (unique?) combination of the 8F and BIL; class 16! As a result of lengthy stops at Milford, Holgate and joining the Wensleydale the hoped for couple of hours at Leyburn became 35 mins. I had planned to join the train at Carnforth but you can spend too long sitting on a train, especially a stationary one, I decided to cut 3 hours from my day and join at Skipton. I would lose 76ish miles of steam along the “Little North Western” but half of those would be in the dark.

It was a bright/sunny but cool morning as I parked at Skipton station (£6/day but with £2 cash back at the ticket office for rail users). I was early so had time to stroll to Morrisons for a cup of tea. A few minutes late 48151 leading 35018 stopped in platform 2. I was at the very back of the ninth coach. RalphW had planned to make a late booking and join the train at Carnforth; he was sitting across the table as I took the remaining aisle seat. I had clocked the drivers as the train arrived at Skipton, but my thanks to “West Brom Tom”, who was stewarding in the next coach, who found out the names of the firemen. The crews were: 48151, driver Mick Kelly, fireman Clive Gault; BIL, driver Steve Chipperfield, fireman Chris Holmes.

7L we were off and with all that tractive effort available we were up to 50 in just over 1.5 miles. Except for the odd couple of miles of gentle uphill the gradient falls all the way to Leeds, but with a 50 mph loco on the front would we be able to reduce the lost time? We bowled along in the morning sunshine, around the curve at Keighley at 52 and now only 4L – disappointingly, there was nothing in the branch platform. We pressed on as we shot through Crossflatts then Bingley before slowing ready to collect passengers at Shipley, we passed through Saltaire at 39 but now only 1½L. A quick stop and we were off only ½L. Soon back up to speed and we flew past Apperley Jn, where the Ilkley line trails in from the left, through Kirkstall Forge at 48 then slowing as we approached Leeds, Armley Jn (23 & 2½E). Our pathing stop on the curve at Whitehall Jn was not required and now we were running over 11E and a gentle run on to Woodlesford for our next pick up (9E). We waited and left RT, speed was in the mid 20s to Castleford, then a sprint up to 50 as we crossed the R Aire before stopping in the loop at Milford (4L) for water. There is a hydrant at Milford, but other stock in the sidings meant this was not accessible so we watered from a tanker. Our scheduled stop was for 67 minutes, so time for an early lunch.

We set off 1E and made our way north, through Sherburn-in-Elmet (31) but then we were slowed approaching Church Fenton (17 & 1L), the signals cleared and there was a nice acceleration to 48 at Ulleskelf (2L) and we joined Colton Jn at 51 but were already easing for our planned stop at Holgate loop. We stopped 4L, 48151 was unhooked from the front, dropped back and was coupled to the rear (the chimney was only 1 coach length away). Now in “top and tail mode” (both c/f) we left the loop just over 4L and made our way the short distance to our final passenger stop at York. Quite a few people left the train and one or two joined. So when was the last time a Merchant Navy headed north from York banked by an 8F? (Answer – Yesterday! And probably will only ever be yesterday!?). Just under 6 mins late we left, Skelton Jn (45) and Skelton Bridge Jn (53); it was good to hear BIL busy at the front but not much noise from the back – probably “just taking its own weight” (but that’s ok because it’s steam!). Some fine running until we were slowed almost to a stop approaching Thirsk, but then we were off and BIL was busy again Thirsk (33 & 9½L), we reached 50 on level track and accelerated up the gentle 1/629r before braking, Northallerton (32 & 10½L) and then we eased off the ECML and onto the Redmire Reversing Line. (This line is alongside the ECML to the left and parallel to it).

We stopped and after around 5 mins set off in the opposite direction. The 8F was now leading (t/f) with BIL on the back (t/f). Some preserved lines seem to operate mainly around 25 mph with few restrictions, the Wensleydale is not one of those lines; it seemed to be mainly limited to 10 mph, just a little 15 mph and slowings below 10 for the many road crossings. It runs through open countryside and in springtime, there were plenty of wayside flowers and birds. So, slowly onwards we reached Leeming Bar only a couple of minutes later than planned, but not as planned we stopped for BIL to take water (a tanker on the road near the crossing at the platform end). Passengers were informed that they could, if they chose, leave the train and visit Leeming Bar and rejoin on the return; there would not be enough time to reach Leyburn but we would go as far as time allowed. Watering took 25 minutes and we headed off towards Bedale, where the amended plan was for 48151 to take water (from the tanker parked in the station car park). At this point the plan to head further along the branch was abandoned – it was “Bedale and Bust”, we would be returning to Northallerton.

There was time to wander around and a few chats, Chris Cubbitt had taken over as driver of the 8F (from York) but Mick Kelly had remained on the footplate as an enthusiastic visitor to the line. For the return the 8F was crewed by Chris Cubbitt with Rob Russell firing and BIL had David Blair driving with Bob Bullock firing – not sure where David Blair took over. It is a pity that we couldn’t go further along the branch, but ensuring that we ran on our path was especially important. I had fancied visiting Leyburn, only ever seen when passing through in the middle of the night whilst watching the RAC rally. I also wanted to see the station at Fingall that was used for filming on the BBC’s All Creatures Great and Small – “Na then, Vet’n’ry” (Mr Biggins was my favourite). I feel a car trip coming on, less than a couple of hours from home.

At 16.05 we set off back towards Northallerton, BIL leading (c/f) and 48151 on the back (c/f). Any passengers who opted to visit Leeming Bar would have been very annoyed as we didn’t stop on our return journey. We did stop at the halt at the NR boundary to let WR pilotman and guard alight before running onto the reversing line, we had been due to arrive at 17.20 but arrived at 16.52. We were not scheduled to leave until 17.27 so time for more food and watch the trains go up and down the ECML.

At 17.28 (1L) we set off, 48151 (t/f) leading and 35018 (t/f) on the back. The exit from the reversing line is onto the DF (it is bidirectional on this section) so off we went through Northallerton station (17 & 2½L) after a mile we crossed over the UF and onto the US (this movement and running on a 45 mph path was the reason we HAD to keep to our times). It was now the best part of the trip 48151 hauling the train and with the chimney only a coach length away – some lovely sounds and Chris wasn’t sparing the horses; we slowed through Thirsk (39 & 1¾L) but by Tollerton Jn we were RT. A brisk approach and stop in York to drop off and pick up passengers; someone in our coach rejoining at York had won the chocolates in the raffle (they didn’t share). Another spell of fine running followed before a (very) hastily arranged stop at Sherburn-in-Elmet. It had been planned to take water at Gascoigne Wood but access problems for the tanker meant a rapid change of plan to allow the 8F to be watered from the tanker parked on the road at the end of the platform; BIL was ok for water. We left 22½L and curved off left to Gascoigne Wood stopping in the DGL adjacent to the Hull line. The 8F was uncoupled and ran past us on a very rusty loop line, crossed onto our loop and was coupled on the front of BIL. Hey Presto, both locos now c/f on what was now the front for our west bound journey.

We left and crossed over the Hull line and made our way to Milford via the southern chord. We accelerated past Milford SB (18) and reached 52 as we crossed the Aire beyond Fairburn but then we slowed as a passenger train was using Castleford station, through Castleford RT. We were slowed to 17 at Whitwood Jn, back up to 37 at Methley Jn before stopping in Woodlesford 2½L. Off again (1E) but the journey towards Leeds was slow with a 3 min stop approaching Stourton Jn, we were now running almost 9L the lights of Leeds shone brightly as night came on. We pulled a little time back and our 2 min pathing stop at Whitehall Jn was omitted, we swept across the maze of lines at the west end of Leeds station, the trust between driver and signaller clearly illustrated. We passed Armley Jn (33 & 1½L), some good running followed, all around 50ish and on rising gradients, then we slowed for our stop at Shipley. Away 1L; Saltaire 36, Bingley 52, Crossflatts 53 & RT, Keighley 50. The fine running continued by Cononley we were 3½E. Coat on and ready for leaving the train at Skipton where we stopped 1E. A quick(ish) walk down the subway and onto platform 2 just in time to see and hear the train depart.

Off to the car and a quick drive to Giggleswick station, no-one there, a check on RTT showed a time for Hellifield but nothing after. I was early enough but had it gone? Just as I stepped out of the car it was here; rapid exhaust beats, the fire glowing in the exhaust on a still cool night, exhausts fading as it climbed on towards the summit. Wind back the clock almost 40 years and the “bottom leg” of the southbound Cumbrian Mountain; then it was almost always a black five. Back in the car and home for 10.30.

On balance an enjoyable trip even if we didn’t go “all the way”. Some new track (for me) the Redmire reversing line and the Gascoigne Wood chords and loop. Some splendid running within the restrictions imposed by the 8F, especially after Shipley on the return, and the tender first section up the ECML and all rounded off with the blast from the past at Giggleswick – Memories!

Good company throughout, nice to see Torgormaig (Peter) again who was not “Guarding” today but a passenger from York. Davo had a brief chat with me as I was waiting to leave the train at Skipton – as enthusiastic in person as he appears in his posts. Things didn’t always go as planned but we coped well and without a single red line or indicative vote. As always my thanks to all involved in planning and operating the trip. I doubt if the trip can be “done” using this template, but a worthy try. A certain member of Nat Pres was effusive in his praise of the Gravy Train’s steak and ale pie with peas, may be worth noting for those of a similar persuasion – Man Food! Mrs W’s team lost again, I told her to come along with me, “Every trips a winner!” “Deltic”, came the reply – whoops!

(Note for Victor – Not a single piece of salad was harmed during the consumption of Oswald’s meals).
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Brilliant and amusing as usual

30567 · 7 April 2019

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Anyhow thanks for that a good ride out on the ex midland lines and north east lines heading back into engine shed jct its not often ive seen a steam tour come n.e. bound from castleford to leeds the scarborough spa circular from york via wakefield used to go engine shed jct to castleford. a few loco movements though come up the ex mid route from normanton or castleford fairly regular
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Tornado will be going that way on 20 July, at least from Methley Jct to Whitehall Jct, on the North Briton.

Bodorganboy · 8 April 2019

Zitat von Oswald T Wistle: ↑

The Wensleydale 06 April 2019 – 48151 . Whilst the starting point remained Carnforth and the destination the Wensleydale Railway, the pick up at Leeds was replaced by Woodlesford and the tour planned to terminate at Leyburn rather than Redmire. The “promised” two Jubilees (RTC email 20 Feb) became the unusual (unique?) combination of the 8F and BIL; class 16! As a result of lengthy stops at Milford, Holgate and joining the Wensleydale the hoped for couple of hours at Leyburn became 35 mins. I had planned to join the train at Carnforth but you can spend too long sitting on a train, especially a stationary one, I decided to cut 3 hours from my day and join at Skipton. I would lose 76ish miles of steam along the “Little North Western” but half of those would be in the dark.

It was a bright/sunny but cool morning as I parked at Skipton station (£6/day but with £2 cash back at the ticket office for rail users). I was early so had time to stroll to Morrisons for a cup of tea. A few minutes late 48151 leading 35018 stopped in platform 2. I was at the very back of the ninth coach. RalphW had planned to make a late booking and join the train at Carnforth; he was sitting across the table as I took the remaining aisle seat. I had clocked the drivers as the train arrived at Skipton, but my thanks to “West Brom Tom”, who was stewarding in the next coach, who found out the names of the firemen. The crews were: 48151, driver Mick Kelly, fireman Clive Gault; BIL, driver Steve Chipperfield, fireman Chris Holmes.

7L we were off and with all that tractive effort available we were up to 50 in just over 1.5 miles. Except for the odd couple of miles of gentle uphill the gradient falls all the way to Leeds, but with a 50 mph loco on the front would we be able to reduce the lost time? We bowled along in the morning sunshine, around the curve at Keighley at 52 and now only 4L – disappointingly, there was nothing in the branch platform. We pressed on as we shot through Crossflatts then Bingley before slowing ready to collect passengers at Shipley, we passed through Saltaire at 39 but now only 1½L. A quick stop and we were off only ½L. Soon back up to speed and we flew past Apperley Jn, where the Ilkley line trails in from the left, through Kirkstall Forge at 48 then slowing as we approached Leeds, Armley Jn (23 & 2½E). Our pathing stop on the curve at Whitehall Jn was not required and now we were running over 11E and a gentle run on to Woodlesford for our next pick up (9E). We waited and left RT, speed was in the mid 20s to Castleford, then a sprint up to 50 as we crossed the R Aire before stopping in the loop at Milford (4L) for water. There is a hydrant at Milford, but other stock in the sidings meant this was not accessible so we watered from a tanker. Our scheduled stop was for 67 minutes, so time for an early lunch.

We set off 1E and made our way north, through Sherburn-in-Elmet (31) but then we were slowed approaching Church Fenton (17 & 1L), the signals cleared and there was a nice acceleration to 48 at Ulleskelf (2L) and we joined Colton Jn at 51 but were already easing for our planned stop at Holgate loop. We stopped 4L, 48151 was unhooked from the front, dropped back and was coupled to the rear (the chimney was only 1 coach length away). Now in “top and tail mode” (both c/f) we left the loop just over 4L and made our way the short distance to our final passenger stop at York. Quite a few people left the train and one or two joined. So when was the last time a Merchant Navy headed north from York banked by an 8F? (Answer – Yesterday! And probably will only ever be yesterday!?). Just under 6 mins late we left, Skelton Jn (45) and Skelton Bridge Jn (53); it was good to hear BIL busy at the front but not much noise from the back – probably “just taking its own weight” (but that’s ok because it’s steam!). Some fine running until we were slowed almost to a stop approaching Thirsk, but then we were off and BIL was busy again Thirsk (33 & 9½L), we reached 50 on level track and accelerated up the gentle 1/629r before braking, Northallerton (32 & 10½L) and then we eased off the ECML and onto the Redmire Reversing Line. (This line is alongside the ECML to the left and parallel to it).

We stopped and after around 5 mins set off in the opposite direction. The 8F was now leading (t/f) with BIL on the back (t/f). Some preserved lines seem to operate mainly around 25 mph with few restrictions, the Wensleydale is not one of those lines; it seemed to be mainly limited to 10 mph, just a little 15 mph and slowings below 10 for the many road crossings. It runs through open countryside and in springtime, there were plenty of wayside flowers and birds. So, slowly onwards we reached Leeming Bar only a couple of minutes later than planned, but not as planned we stopped for BIL to take water (a tanker on the road near the crossing at the platform end). Passengers were informed that they could, if they chose, leave the train and visit Leeming Bar and rejoin on the return; there would not be enough time to reach Leyburn but we would go as far as time allowed. Watering took 25 minutes and we headed off towards Bedale, where the amended plan was for 48151 to take water (from the tanker parked in the station car park). At this point the plan to head further along the branch was abandoned – it was “Bedale and Bust”, we would be returning to Northallerton.

There was time to wander around and a few chats, Chris Cubbitt had taken over as driver of the 8F (from York) but Mick Kelly had remained on the footplate as an enthusiastic visitor to the line. For the return the 8F was crewed by Chris Cubbitt with Rob Russell firing and BIL had David Blair driving with Bob Bullock firing – not sure where David Blair took over. It is a pity that we couldn’t go further along the branch, but ensuring that we ran on our path was especially important. I had fancied visiting Leyburn, only ever seen when passing through in the middle of the night whilst watching the RAC rally. I also wanted to see the station at Fingall that was used for filming on the BBC’s All Creatures Great and Small – “Na then, Vet’n’ry” (Mr Biggins was my favourite). I feel a car trip coming on, less than a couple of hours from home.

At 16.05 we set off back towards Northallerton, BIL leading (c/f) and 48151 on the back (c/f). Any passengers who opted to visit Leeming Bar would have been very annoyed as we didn’t stop on our return journey. We did stop at the halt at the NR boundary to let WR pilotman and guard alight before running onto the reversing line, we had been due to arrive at 17.20 but arrived at 16.52. We were not scheduled to leave until 17.27 so time for more food and watch the trains go up and down the ECML.

At 17.28 (1L) we set off, 48151 (t/f) leading and 35018 (t/f) on the back. The exit from the reversing line is onto the DF (it is bidirectional on this section) so off we went through Northallerton station (17 & 2½L) after a mile we crossed over the UF and onto the US (this movement and running on a 45 mph path was the reason we HAD to keep to our times). It was now the best part of the trip 48151 hauling the train and with the chimney only a coach length away – some lovely sounds and Chris wasn’t sparing the horses; we slowed through Thirsk (39 & 1¾L) but by Tollerton Jn we were RT. A brisk approach and stop in York to drop off and pick up passengers; someone in our coach rejoining at York had won the chocolates in the raffle (they didn’t share). Another spell of fine running followed before a (very) hastily arranged stop at Sherburn-in-Elmet. It had been planned to take water at Gascoigne Wood but access problems for the tanker meant a rapid change of plan to allow the 8F to be watered from the tanker parked on the road at the end of the platform; BIL was ok for water. We left 22½L and curved off left to Gascoigne Wood stopping in the DGL adjacent to the Hull line. The 8F was uncoupled and ran past us on a very rusty loop line, crossed onto our loop and was coupled on the front of BIL. Hey Presto, both locos now c/f on what was now the front for our west bound journey.

We left and crossed over the Hull line and made our way to Milford via the southern chord. We accelerated past Milford SB (18) and reached 52 as we crossed the Aire beyond Fairburn but then we slowed as a passenger train was using Castleford station, through Castleford RT. We were slowed to 17 at Whitwood Jn, back up to 37 at Methley Jn before stopping in Woodlesford 2½L. Off again (1E) but the journey towards Leeds was slow with a 3 min stop approaching Stourton Jn, we were now running almost 9L the lights of Leeds shone brightly as night came on. We pulled a little time back and our 2 min pathing stop at Whitehall Jn was omitted, we swept across the maze of lines at the west end of Leeds station, the trust between driver and signaller clearly illustrated. We passed Armley Jn (33 & 1½L), some good running followed, all around 50ish and on rising gradients, then we slowed for our stop at Shipley. Away 1L; Saltaire 36, Bingley 52, Crossflatts 53 & RT, Keighley 50. The fine running continued by Cononley we were 3½E. Coat on and ready for leaving the train at Skipton where we stopped 1E. A quick(ish) walk down the subway and onto platform 2 just in time to see and hear the train depart.

Off to the car and a quick drive to Giggleswick station, no-one there, a check on RTT showed a time for Hellifield but nothing after. I was early
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Now we know who turned up at last minute at Giggleswick, hope you enjoy the video

Oswald T Wistle · 7 April 2019

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Now we know who turned up at last minute at Giggleswick, hope you enjoy the video
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Lovely stuff, being last minute I didn’t spot you up at the end of the platform.

Bodorganboy · 7 April 2019

Brother was on the platform, I was on the road above the station, in almost total darkness.

RalphW · 7 April 2019

Thanks Oswald for you usual comprehensive report, sitting opposite you I would not have believed you gathered enough information...
One little extra though, as we approached Hellifield although speed reduced we cruised through without stopping, presumably both crews were happy that they has sufficient water to reach Carnforth, only to be brought to a halt shortly afterwards, however after a few minutes we set off again and once past Settle Junction we made steady progress up Giggleswick bank, beyond there the speed rose and brisk progress was made the rest of the way, and as reported arrived about 30 minutes early.
A walk to the front and I discovered a young lady in overalls standing alongside BIL, turned out to be Jeannie Walker who had been firing part of the way. Her aim I understand is to become a main line passed fireman/person/woman in the not to distant future.

Edit, Only just realised that BIL filled up with water at Leeming Bar and got back to Carnforth on that fill. The video sound of us passing Giggleswick station seems to confirm that the since the 8 was filled up at Sherburn, it was doing most of the work with BIL in conservation mode....Only my thoughts...

61994 · 7 April 2019

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48151 & 35018 hurry past Bell Busk

Mick45305 · 7 April 2019

Zitat von Oswald T Wistle: ↑

The Wensleydale 06 April 2019 – 48151 & 35018 British India Line hauling POB+9

Like many “one off” trips this one suffered several changes from the one advertised. Whilst the starting point remained Carnforth and the destination the Wensleydale Railway, the pick up at Leeds was replaced by Woodlesford and the tour planned to terminate at Leyburn rather than Redmire. The “promised” two Jubilees (RTC email 20 Feb) became the unusual (unique?) combination of the 8F and BIL; class 16! As a result of lengthy stops at Milford, Holgate and joining the Wensleydale the hoped for couple of hours at Leyburn became 35 mins. I had planned to join the train at Carnforth but you can spend too long sitting on a train, especially a stationary one, I decided to cut 3 hours from my day and join at Skipton. I would lose 76ish miles of steam along the “Little North Western” but half of those would be in the dark.

It was a bright/sunny but cool morning as I parked at Skipton station (£6/day but with £2 cash back at the ticket office for rail users). I was early so had time to stroll to Morrisons for a cup of tea. A few minutes late 48151 leading 35018 stopped in platform 2. I was at the very back of the ninth coach. RalphW had planned to make a late booking and join the train at Carnforth; he was sitting across the table as I took the remaining aisle seat. I had clocked the drivers as the train arrived at Skipton, but my thanks to “West Brom Tom”, who was stewarding in the next coach, who found out the names of the firemen. The crews were: 48151, driver Mick Kelly, fireman Clive Gault; BIL, driver Steve Chipperfield, fireman Chris Holmes.

7L we were off and with all that tractive effort available we were up to 50 in just over 1.5 miles. Except for the odd couple of miles of gentle uphill the gradient falls all the way to Leeds, but with a 50 mph loco on the front would we be able to reduce the lost time? We bowled along in the morning sunshine, around the curve at Keighley at 52 and now only 4L – disappointingly, there was nothing in the branch platform. We pressed on as we shot through Crossflatts then Bingley before slowing ready to collect passengers at Shipley, we passed through Saltaire at 39 but now only 1½L. A quick stop and we were off only ½L. Soon back up to speed and we flew past Apperley Jn, where the Ilkley line trails in from the left, through Kirkstall Forge at 48 then slowing as we approached Leeds, Armley Jn (23 & 2½E). Our pathing stop on the curve at Whitehall Jn was not required and now we were running over 11E and a gentle run on to Woodlesford for our next pick up (9E). We waited and left RT, speed was in the mid 20s to Castleford, then a sprint up to 50 as we crossed the R Aire before stopping in the loop at Milford (4L) for water. There is a hydrant at Milford, but other stock in the sidings meant this was not accessible so we watered from a tanker. Our scheduled stop was for 67 minutes, so time for an early lunch.

We set off 1E and made our way north, through Sherburn-in-Elmet (31) but then we were slowed approaching Church Fenton (17 & 1L), the signals cleared and there was a nice acceleration to 48 at Ulleskelf (2L) and we joined Colton Jn at 51 but were already easing for our planned stop at Holgate loop. We stopped 4L, 48151 was unhooked from the front, dropped back and was coupled to the rear (the chimney was only 1 coach length away). Now in “top and tail mode” (both c/f) we left the loop just over 4L and made our way the short distance to our final passenger stop at York. Quite a few people left the train and one or two joined. So when was the last time a Merchant Navy headed north from York banked by an 8F? (Answer – Yesterday! And probably will only ever be yesterday!?). Just under 6 mins late we left, Skelton Jn (45) and Skelton Bridge Jn (53); it was good to hear BIL busy at the front but not much noise from the back – probably “just taking its own weight” (but that’s ok because it’s steam!). Some fine running until we were slowed almost to a stop approaching Thirsk, but then we were off and BIL was busy again Thirsk (33 & 9½L), we reached 50 on level track and accelerated up the gentle 1/629r before braking, Northallerton (32 & 10½L) and then we eased off the ECML and onto the Redmire Reversing Line. (This line is alongside the ECML to the left and parallel to it).

We stopped and after around 5 mins set off in the opposite direction. The 8F was now leading (t/f) with BIL on the back (t/f). Some preserved lines seem to operate mainly around 25 mph with few restrictions, the Wensleydale is not one of those lines; it seemed to be mainly limited to 10 mph, just a little 15 mph and slowings below 10 for the many road crossings. It runs through open countryside and in springtime, there were plenty of wayside flowers and birds. So, slowly onwards we reached Leeming Bar only a couple of minutes later than planned, but not as planned we stopped for BIL to take water (a tanker on the road near the crossing at the platform end). Passengers were informed that they could, if they chose, leave the train and visit Leeming Bar and rejoin on the return; there would not be enough time to reach Leyburn but we would go as far as time allowed. Watering took 25 minutes and we headed off towards Bedale, where the amended plan was for 48151 to take water (from the tanker parked in the station car park). At this point the plan to head further along the branch was abandoned – it was “Bedale and Bust”, we would be returning to Northallerton.

There was time to wander around and a few chats, Chris Cubbitt had taken over as driver of the 8F (from York) but Mick Kelly had remained on the footplate as an enthusiastic visitor to the line. For the return the 8F was crewed by Chris Cubbitt with Rob Russell firing and BIL had David Blair driving with Bob Bullock firing – not sure where David Blair took over. It is a pity that we couldn’t go further along the branch, but ensuring that we ran on our path was especially important. I had fancied visiting Leyburn, only ever seen when passing through in the middle of the night whilst watching the RAC rally. I also wanted to see the station at Fingall that was used for filming on the BBC’s All Creatures Great and Small – “Na then, Vet’n’ry” (Mr Biggins was my favourite). I feel a car trip coming on, less than a couple of hours from home.

At 16.05 we set off back towards Northallerton, BIL leading (c/f) and 48151 on the back (c/f). Any passengers who opted to visit Leeming Bar would have been very annoyed as we didn’t stop on our return journey. We did stop at the halt at the NR boundary to let WR pilotman and guard alight before running onto the reversing line, we had been due to arrive at 17.20 but arrived at 16.52. We were not scheduled to leave until 17.27 so time for more food and watch the trains go up and down the ECML.

At 17.28 (1L) we set off, 48151 (t/f) leading and 35018 (t/f) on the back. The exit from the reversing line is onto the DF (it is bidirectional on this section) so off we went through Northallerton station (17 & 2½L) after a mile we crossed over the UF and onto the US (this movement and running on a 45 mph path was the reason we HAD to keep to our times). It was now the best part of the trip 48151 hauling the train and with the chimney only a coach length away – some lovely sounds and Chris wasn’t sparing the horses; we slowed through Thirsk (39 & 1¾L) but by Tollerton Jn we were RT. A brisk approach and stop in York to drop off and pick up passengers; someone in our coach rejoining at York had won the chocolates in the raffle (they didn’t share). Another spell of fine running followed before a (very) hastily arranged stop at Sherburn-in-Elmet. It had been planned to take water at Gascoigne Wood but access problems for the tanker meant a rapid change of plan to allow the 8F to be watered from the tanker parked on the road at the end of the platform; BIL was ok for water. We left 22½L and curved off left to Gascoigne Wood stopping in the DGL adjacent to the Hull line. The 8F was uncoupled and ran past us on a very rusty loop line, crossed onto our loop and was coupled on the front of BIL. Hey Presto, both locos now c/f on what was now the front for our west bound journey.

We left and crossed over the Hull line and made our way to Milford via the southern chord. We accelerated past Milford SB (18) and reached 52 as we crossed the Aire beyond Fairburn but then we slowed as a passenger train was using Castleford station, through Castleford RT. We were slowed to 17 at Whitwood Jn, back up to 37 at Methley Jn before stopping in Woodlesford 2½L. Off again (1E) but the journey towards Leeds was slow with a 3 min stop approaching Stourton Jn, we were now running almost 9L the lights of Leeds shone brightly as night came on. We pulled a little time back and our 2 min pathing stop at Whitehall Jn was omitted, we swept across the maze of lines at the west end of Leeds station, the trust between driver and signaller clearly illustrated. We passed Armley Jn (33 & 1½L), some good running followed, all around 50ish and on rising gradients, then we slowed for our stop at Shipley. Away 1L; Saltaire 36, Bingley 52, Crossflatts 53 & RT, Keighley 50. The fine running continued by Cononley we were 3½E. Coat on and ready for leaving the train at Skipton where we stopped 1E. A quick(ish) walk down the subway and onto platform 2 just in time to see and hear the train depart.

Off to the car and a quick drive to Giggleswick station, no-one there, a check on RTT showed a time for Hellifield but nothing after. I was early enough but had it gone? Just as I stepped out of the car it was here; rapid exhaust beats, the fire glowing in the exhaust on a still cool night, exhausts fading as it climbed on towards the summit. Wind back the clock almost 40 years and the “bottom leg” of the southbound Cumbrian Mountain; then it was almost always a black five. Back in the car and home for 10.30.

On balance an enjoyable trip even if we didn’t go “all the way”. Some new track (for me) the Redmire reversing line and the Gascoigne Wood chords and loop. Some splendid running within the restrictions imposed by the 8F, especially after Shipley on the return, and the tender first section up the ECML and all rounded off with the blast from the past at Giggleswick – Memories!

Good company throughout, nice to see Torgormaig (Peter) again who was not “Guarding” today but a passenger from York. Davo had a brief chat with me as I was waiting to leave the train at Skipton – as enthusiastic in person as he appears in his posts. Things didn’t always go as planned but we coped well and without a single red line or indicative vote. As always my thanks to all involved in planning and operating the trip. I doubt if the trip can be “done” using this template, but a worthy try. A certain member of Nat Pres was effusive in his praise of the Gravy Train’s steak and ale pie with peas, may be worth noting for those of a similar persuasion – Man Food! Mrs W’s team lost again, I told her to come along with me, “Every trips a winner!” “Deltic”, came the reply – whoops!

(Note for Victor – Not a single piece of salad was harmed during the consumption of Oswald’s meals).
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Very entertaining report as usual Oswald. Should have made myself known, I was the young lad with glasses on the table opposite. No doubt our paths will cross again for a proper introduction. Also nice to see Ralph again, all told a very enjoyable day. A surprising first for me yesterday was covering the Little North Western by steam (and by any form of rail traction for that matter, thankfully no Pacers involved!!).

RalphW · 7 April 2019

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Very entertaining report as usual Oswald. Should have made myself known, I was the young lad with glasses on the table opposite. No doubt our paths will cross again for a proper introduction. Also nice to see Ralph again, all told a very enjoyable day. A surprising first for me yesterday was covering the Little North Western by steam (and by any form of rail traction for that matter, thankfully no Pacers involved!!).
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Ah so that was you, I realised you were a member but now have a face for the name.....Good to meet you.

Steamie Boxes · 7 April 2019

I was in Coach D yesterday closer to the Kitchen car and had a blue jumper on.

Oswald T Wistle · 8 April 2019

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Thanks Oswald for you usual comprehensive report, sitting opposite you I would not have believed you gathered enough information...
One little extra though, as we approached Hellifield although speed reduced we cruised through without stopping, presumably both crews were happy that they has sufficient water to reach Carnforth, only to be brought to a halt shortly afterwards, however after a few minutes we set off again and once past Settle Junction we made steady progress up Giggleswick bank, beyond there the speed rose and brisk progress was made the rest of the way, and as reported arrived about 30 minutes early.
A walk to the front and I discovered a young lady in overalls standing alongside BIL, turned out to be Jeannie Walker who had been firing part of the way. Her aim I understand is to become a main line passed fireman/person/woman in the not to distant future.

Edit, Only just realised that BIL filled up with water at Leeming Bar and got back to Carnforth on that fill. The video sound of us passing Giggleswick station seems to confirm that the since the 8 was filled up at Sherburn, it was doing most of the work with BIL in conservation mode....Only my thoughts...
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The information comes from my little friend who was sitting on the table (GPS), he has a far better memory than me (downloadable), he knows the exact time and where we are to within a few feet - he is the organ grinder and I am the merely the monkey (type-cast for the part).

I am glad the train stopped as I would have missed it at Giggleswick, I was worried that the water stop might be omitted. Subject to the weather forecast, I had planned to board at Skipton to make watching the train a possibility (and it shortened the day and avoided finding a parking space at Carnforth). Would I have gone to Gigglewick if I had known that the Bordorganboys were videoing it? Yes!

I saw the lady on the platform at Bedale, so is she Peter Walker's daughter?

Oswald T Wistle · 8 April 2019

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Very entertaining report as usual Oswald. Should have made myself known, I was the young lad with glasses on the table opposite. No doubt our paths will cross again for a proper introduction. Also nice to see Ralph again, all told a very enjoyable day. A surprising first for me yesterday was covering the Little North Western by steam (and by any form of rail traction for that matter, thankfully no Pacers involved!!).
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Thanks for the kind comment. I have seen you on a fairly recent trip but didn't know the "name" - perhaps we all need badges, "I'm with Nat Pres", or perhaps not. The LNW is an attractive line that although used regularly for test runs and stock movements doesn't see many steam trips, which is a shame.

Oswald T Wistle · 8 April 2019

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Brother was on the platform, I was on the road above the station, in almost total darkness.
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I see that roaming the countryside in total darkness has earned you a like from SGT - it takes one to know one? Thanks for the video it brought back plenty of memories from the 1980s and gave me a much better view than I got on the night.

Oswald T Wistle · 8 April 2019

Thanks to those of you who posted positive comments about my report, I enjoy writing the stuff and am pleased that others enjoy it too. I've now had a chance to look at the photos and videos, some good stuff (as usual), thanks to everyone for posting, that is the drawback of travelling, you don't get chance to see it.

RalphW · 8 April 2019

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I was in Coach D yesterday closer to the Kitchen car and had a blue jumper on.
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Plebs class not allowed 't posh end....

Davo · 8 April 2019

Oh standard class will suit me fine i dont get bo%%#×ed as much by stewards 4 hanging in the vestibules like you do in 1st class at windows but make sure heads arms and cameras are within the window but i like to stand and hear the kettle chattering away or a friendly steward or fellow passenger walking through the carriage and a quick wave at fellow linesiders spectating.

Steamie Boxes · 8 April 2019

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Oh standard class will suit me fine i dont get bo%%#×ed as much by stewards 4 hanging in the vestibules like you do in 1st class at windows but make sure heads arms and cameras are within the window but i like to stand and hear the kettle chattering away or a friendly steward or fellow passenger walking through the carriage and a quick wave at fellow linesiders spectating.
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The stewards in my coach, didn’t care I was in the vestibule, I spent most of the time there filming. Actually he encouraged me to film out the window than just having it just inside.

46203 · 8 April 2019

Dear oh dear

Victor · 8 April 2019

I like to sit well back in 1st Class, a nice cup of coffee, or a drop of wine (with a bit of birthday cake.

RalphW · 8 April 2019

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I like to sit well back in 1st Class, a nice cup of coffee, or a drop of wine (with a bit of birthday cake.
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Yes you can get used to it can't you...We used to make two trips a year with my brother and his wife, if possible behind DoS, and always north from Crewe. Coach A to be near the action one way, full dinner and drinks on the way back, steam past the window with the aroma of smoke, and cinders on the roast beef, what's not to like.

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