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Abandoned Tender

Dieses Thema im Forum 'International Heritage Railways/Tramways' wurde von Martin Perry gestartet, 3 Mai 2020.

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  1. torgormaig

    torgormaig Part of the furniture Friend

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    So it would seem:( - especially in NSW! The owner is the guy who also owns the 30 odd rusting heaps of scrap at Dorrigo ( including two ROD 2-8-02) and you have no chance of getting anything away from him. It is possibly the largest collection of locos in the Southern Hemisphere and they are all just rusting away.

    Peter
     
    torgormaig, 5 Mai 2020
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    thank you Peter..are there any photos? several decades ago i visited Steamtown Vermont(before it moved to Scranton) and there.half the size of the enormous tender in front of it. was the M7 tank in LSWR line out. There too were line of rusting locos and poetically,nothing was moving;not even a mouse!!. Lucky for the M7 it was called home to Swanage. Also there was an Irish(NG??) tank engine which i believe also went back across the Atlantic
     
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    60017 Resident of Nat Pres Friend

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    Bruce 'Cobber' Woodham?
     
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    Monkey Magic Part of the furniture

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    This prompts a tangential question- why no Beyer Garratts in North America?
     
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  5. Martin Perry

    Martin Perry Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator Friend

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    The preference for the Mallet type was manifest, the reason less clear, possibly just that Alco, Lima, etc had better salesmen?
     
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    No need for that level of articulation, maybe, plus are Garratts perhaps too small? Imagine if the boiler off a Big Boy had to be mounted on the cradle of a Garratt!
     
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    Romsey Part of the furniture

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    There was however an American input with the cast steel frames for some South African classes (GMA/M and GO) produces by Commonwealth Steel.
    Some ideas did float around of Mallet - Garratts but I suspect they were more wishful thinking ( by Dusty Durrant) than anything else.

    Cheers, Neil

    PS Perhaps there was an element of "not invented here" and having to admit that European manufacturers could produce something better........
     
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  8. Martin Perry

    Martin Perry Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator Friend

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    One of the supposed advantages of a Garratt was the ability to use a shorter, but larger diameter boiler, giving better steam producing ability than an equivalent long boiler.
     
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  9. Martin Perry

    Martin Perry Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator Friend

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    The original Mallet loco was a European (Swiss) invention.
     
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    torgormaig Part of the furniture Friend

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    There are photos and details of the set up at Dorrigo on the net. Look up Dorrigo Steam Railway and Museum - and weep at the shear waste you will see there. The owner has more chance of operating his train set on the moon than he has of meeting the operating licence requirements of NSW. He seems to be a pure fantasist.

    Peter
     
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    he certainly has some collection it seems so sad to let it just waste away
     
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    Patents? Was it more expensive to build a Garratt than a Mallet? The wikipedia entry on the NSW Garratts says that they assembled a loco out of spare parts but called it a rebuild to avoid paying royalties.

    North America maybe had a move developed indigenous loco industry? Why import when you can have something built locally? Did anyone other than Beyer Peacock build Garratts?
     
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  13. Martin Perry

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    Hanomag, Franco-Belge, North British, Clyde Engineering and others, all built Garratts, some under licence.
     
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    Statfold Barn perhaps, they did a wonderful job with the K1, wonder which part of the multi-gauge track it would fit on? :D
     
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