If you register, you can do a lot more. And become an active part of our growing community. You'll have access to hidden forums, and enjoy the ability of replying and starting conversations.

Abandoned Tender

本贴由 Martin Perry2020-05-03 发布. 版块名称: International Heritage Railways/Tramways

  1. torgormaig

    torgormaig Part of the furniture Friend

    注册日期:
    2007-07-17
    帖子:
    4,906
    支持:
    7,651
    So it would seem:( - especially in NSW! The owner is the guy who also owns the 30 odd rusting heaps of scrap at Dorrigo ( including two ROD 2-8-02) and you have no chance of getting anything away from him. It is possibly the largest collection of locos in the Southern Hemisphere and they are all just rusting away.

    Peter
     
  2. oliversbest

    oliversbest Member

    注册日期:
    2011-06-14
    帖子:
    814
    支持:
    121
    thank you Peter..are there any photos? several decades ago i visited Steamtown Vermont(before it moved to Scranton) and there.half the size of the enormous tender in front of it. was the M7 tank in LSWR line out. There too were line of rusting locos and poetically,nothing was moving;not even a mouse!!. Lucky for the M7 it was called home to Swanage. Also there was an Irish(NG??) tank engine which i believe also went back across the Atlantic
     
  3. 60017

    60017 Resident of Nat Pres Friend

    注册日期:
    2008-07-06
    帖子:
    9,103
    支持:
    8,072
    性别:
    职业:
    Retired from corporate slavery :o)
    所在地:
    Fylde Coast
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Bruce 'Cobber' Woodham?
     
    已获得torgormaig的支持.
  4. Monkey Magic

    Monkey Magic Part of the furniture

    注册日期:
    2018-01-06
    帖子:
    3,498
    支持:
    6,845
    所在地:
    Here, there, everywhere
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    This prompts a tangential question- why no Beyer Garratts in North America?
     
  5. Martin Perry

    Martin Perry Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator Friend

    注册日期:
    2006-04-15
    帖子:
    16,551
    支持:
    7,897
    所在地:
    1012 / 60158
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    The preference for the Mallet type was manifest, the reason less clear, possibly just that Alco, Lima, etc had better salesmen?
     
  6. 5944

    5944 Resident of Nat Pres

    注册日期:
    2006-01-14
    帖子:
    8,863
    支持:
    9,273
    性别:
    职业:
    Train Maintainer for GTR at Hornsey
    所在地:
    Letchworth
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    No need for that level of articulation, maybe, plus are Garratts perhaps too small? Imagine if the boiler off a Big Boy had to be mounted on the cradle of a Garratt!
     
  7. Romsey

    Romsey Part of the furniture

    注册日期:
    2007-07-14
    帖子:
    3,868
    支持:
    1,849
    性别:
    职业:
    Retired SPM
    所在地:
    Close to Spike Island
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    There was however an American input with the cast steel frames for some South African classes (GMA/M and GO) produces by Commonwealth Steel.
    Some ideas did float around of Mallet - Garratts but I suspect they were more wishful thinking ( by Dusty Durrant) than anything else.

    Cheers, Neil

    PS Perhaps there was an element of "not invented here" and having to admit that European manufacturers could produce something better........
     
  8. Martin Perry

    Martin Perry Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator Friend

    注册日期:
    2006-04-15
    帖子:
    16,551
    支持:
    7,897
    所在地:
    1012 / 60158
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    One of the supposed advantages of a Garratt was the ability to use a shorter, but larger diameter boiler, giving better steam producing ability than an equivalent long boiler.
     
  9. Martin Perry

    Martin Perry Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator Friend

    注册日期:
    2006-04-15
    帖子:
    16,551
    支持:
    7,897
    所在地:
    1012 / 60158
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    The original Mallet loco was a European (Swiss) invention.
     
  10. torgormaig

    torgormaig Part of the furniture Friend

    注册日期:
    2007-07-17
    帖子:
    4,906
    支持:
    7,651
    There are photos and details of the set up at Dorrigo on the net. Look up Dorrigo Steam Railway and Museum - and weep at the shear waste you will see there. The owner has more chance of operating his train set on the moon than he has of meeting the operating licence requirements of NSW. He seems to be a pure fantasist.

    Peter
     
    已获得NSWGR 382760017的支持.
  11. ssk2400

    ssk2400 New Member

    注册日期:
    2010-11-14
    帖子:
    180
    支持:
    40
    性别:
    职业:
    electrical engineer
    所在地:
    South cumbria
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    he certainly has some collection it seems so sad to let it just waste away
     
    已获得torgormaig的支持.
  12. Monkey Magic

    Monkey Magic Part of the furniture

    注册日期:
    2018-01-06
    帖子:
    3,498
    支持:
    6,845
    所在地:
    Here, there, everywhere
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Patents? Was it more expensive to build a Garratt than a Mallet? The wikipedia entry on the NSW Garratts says that they assembled a loco out of spare parts but called it a rebuild to avoid paying royalties.

    North America maybe had a move developed indigenous loco industry? Why import when you can have something built locally? Did anyone other than Beyer Peacock build Garratts?
     
  13. Martin Perry

    Martin Perry Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator Friend

    注册日期:
    2006-04-15
    帖子:
    16,551
    支持:
    7,897
    所在地:
    1012 / 60158
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Hanomag, Franco-Belge, North British, Clyde Engineering and others, all built Garratts, some under licence.
     
  14. Britfoamer

    Britfoamer Well-Known Member

    注册日期:
    2008-09-16
    帖子:
    2,367
    支持:
    2,279
    性别:
    职业:
    Chemist (semi-retired)
    所在地:
    Within 2 miles of the ELR
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Statfold Barn perhaps, they did a wonderful job with the K1, wonder which part of the multi-gauge track it would fit on? :D
     

分享此页面