West Somerset Railway General Discussion

I'm generally against banning or ejecting people (on here, or on a line); that wasn't what I was alluding to with "a terrible choice to make as to how to react").

Noel

 

Well, it's very flattering, but ...

I think anyone wishing to help would have to consider first of all whether they consider that there was a shared willingness to engage in an open reform process without preconceptions across all the interested parties; and to what degree they felt individuals were prepared to stand aside if that was for the greater good of the railway. With those conditions, anything is possible; without them I suspect anyone taking it on would find many new and baroque ways to define the term poisoned chalice.

Tom

 

Close - Bristol built thousands of buses of many types, I own one .

 

In the Absence of Not Knowing What do - do NOTHING!

 

and it would be very convenient for the plc if the WSSRT AGM was deferred until after their own!

 

Any bookies with odds on that *not* being the case?...

 

All this can be easily short circuited via the 10 of the WSSRT standing for election and getting elected to the WSSRT board.

This is, in my opinion, the best way at the moment. It gives the SDRT a sliver of a hope without expensive Court proceedings.

And control of the WSSRT shareholding so divesting at a stroke the complacency of the current WSR plc board, and to my mind resolves governance issues quite easily.

Why others don't see the logic of this such as John Bailey and others , I don't understand.

 

Terrible odds Alex and no sane person would take it!

 

and if, by the time of the 2021 Plc AGM, the new charity was in place and those 10% shareholdings were just so much waste paper.

 

I have a nasty suspicion that someone somewhere may be pleased to see the WSSRT AGM delayed until after the Plc AGM. Then, should the new candidates succeed in being elected, they could not work with the WSRA using the combined shareholding to hold the Plc to account - for this year at least?

Edit: @Triumph 2500S got there before me

Time enough has passed for the new proxy forms to be printed and sent out (After all it didn't take long for the Chairman's excuses letter to be delivered)
Note to WSSRT Board:- Suggestions have already been made to the CC that this is solely an internal matter to be decided by the members (as the CC always prefer such things to be done) and that requests for CC guidance are un necessary and believed to be simply an excuse for the undemocratic delaying the proceedings.

 

I think they see the logic - It's more likely they fear the outcome...

 

I re-read today a report of the WSR PLC EGM of 1976. (It is in the SDRT archive of it's reports, and you have to be an SDRT member to access same).

It doesn't make for good reading. Allan Garaway was brought in from the FR to chair the meeting as an outsider! Mr D. Fear, MD, was apparently taken ill during the meeting and he had Solicitors attending on his behalf which the WSR PLC had to pay for subsequently. He resigned then didn't resign etc. The accounts were not approved then were approved after a poll and delay over the Directors Report.

That was 44 years ago. Not a lot has changed!

(For SDRT members the report is in bulletin 76)

 

Some of us remember it well!!

 

It seems to me that it is a sad comment on someone who was until recently a member of the PLC board that it should come to this

 

I suggest that given a potential 'Pro PLC' structure has been proposed suddenly its tune has changed

 

It seems that the attitude of the PLC Board depends on whether those on the board will gain or lose from the reforms.

The cynical might think that the PLC Board are more concerned about holding onto power above and beyond any other considerations.

 

It's not my forum and I'd avoid being a moderator, and I don't know the individual, but as a general point I find moderators publicly signposting the 'opportunity to delete his account' to be unfortunate

Patrick (not knowingly being/have been monitored)

 

and how did you deduce that then?

or are you saying ALL shareholdings in the plc will be 'just so much waste paper'?

 

I suggest that a public warning allows those offended to know something is being done