If you register, you can do a lot more. And become an active part of our growing community. You'll have access to hidden forums, and enjoy the ability of replying and starting conversations.

Clan Line in 2021

الموضوع في 'What's Going On' بواسطة pjhliners, بتاريخ ‏4 مارس 2021.

  1. TheModster

    TheModster Member

    إنضم إلينا في:
    ‏23 إبريل 2019
    المشاركات:
    902
    عدد المعجبين:
    1,810
    الجنس:
    ذكر
    مكان الإقامة:
    London
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Been told that it will be Clan Line leading with Tornado and her support coach behind. The best version of this double header possible (in my opinion anyway) and they've picked a good time to do this with Tornado currently in BR Green.
     
  2. 3ABescot

    3ABescot Member

    إنضم إلينا في:
    ‏14 جوان 2019
    المشاركات:
    429
    عدد المعجبين:
    829
    مكان الإقامة:
    Herefordshire
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    It does say double headed in the PDF download under "Pulling Power".
     
  3. Big Al

    Big Al Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator

    إنضم إلينا في:
    ‏30 ماي 2009
    المشاركات:
    22,738
    عدد المعجبين:
    22,894
    مكان الإقامة:
    1016
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    That combination will just fit into P2 at Victoria. Someone has done the maths on this one. :)
     
  4. gricerdon

    gricerdon Well-Known Member

    إنضم إلينا في:
    ‏10 مارس 2018
    المشاركات:
    1,816
    عدد المعجبين:
    883
    الجنس:
    ذكر
    الوظيفة:
    Gricer and Grandad
    مكان الإقامة:
    Wallers Ash
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Perhaps because Clan Line has now been classified as an A1 pacific!
     
  5. free2grice

    free2grice Part of the furniture Friend

    إنضم إلينا في:
    ‏19 سبتمبر 2005
    المشاركات:
    5,657
    عدد المعجبين:
    3,686
    الجنس:
    ذكر
    الوظيفة:
    Retired Rolls-Royce engineer
    مكان الإقامة:
    Bath Green Park / Mangotsfield
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    ''The Rail Aid Pullman will be hauled in style by two British Pacific steam locomotives of the finest pedigree. Bulleid ‘Merchant Navy’ class “Clan Line” and Peppercorn ‘A1′ class “Tornado” will double-head our train''.

    Appears pretty clear-cut to me. <BJ>
     
  6. Big Al

    Big Al Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator

    إنضم إلينا في:
    ‏30 ماي 2009
    المشاركات:
    22,738
    عدد المعجبين:
    22,894
    مكان الإقامة:
    1016
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    I suggest that a little of that charity might need to begin with some high end literacy training for the marketing team. :rolleyes:

    upload_2021-11-10_9-10-29.png
     
  7. MellishR

    MellishR Resident of Nat Pres Friend

    إنضم إلينا في:
    ‏16 إبريل 2009
    المشاركات:
    8,992
    عدد المعجبين:
    5,920
    I might have been tempted but for "Enjoy live music, recreating harmonies from the 30s and 40s, perfect for the era of rail you’ll be reliving on this trip." I like to choose the music that I listen to, not to have it inflicted on me, regardless of what style it is.
     
  8. gricerdon

    gricerdon Well-Known Member

    إنضم إلينا في:
    ‏10 مارس 2018
    المشاركات:
    1,816
    عدد المعجبين:
    883
    الجنس:
    ذكر
    الوظيفة:
    Gricer and Grandad
    مكان الإقامة:
    Wallers Ash
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Not what it says under Pulling Power
     
  9. RalphW

    RalphW Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Administrator Friend

    إنضم إلينا في:
    ‏11 سبتمبر 2005
    المشاركات:
    36,565
    عدد المعجبين:
    9,984
    الجنس:
    ذكر
    الوظيفة:
    Retired-ish, Part time rail tour steward.
    مكان الإقامة:
    Northwich
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    How things change, a few years back Vintage trains ran a tour with EoME and DoS double heading, this was ridiculed by some and it was a pairing that would never have happened and therefore was not authentic. Today however for some reason a similar unauthentic pairing is being drooled over. :rolleyes:
     
  10. free2grice

    free2grice Part of the furniture Friend

    إنضم إلينا في:
    ‏19 سبتمبر 2005
    المشاركات:
    5,657
    عدد المعجبين:
    3,686
    الجنس:
    ذكر
    الوظيفة:
    Retired Rolls-Royce engineer
    مكان الإقامة:
    Bath Green Park / Mangotsfield
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    It does for me Don. Are there 2 different internet versions of the promotion? Some folk appear to be reading one version and others another. <BJ>
     
  11. 46203

    46203 Member

    إنضم إلينا في:
    ‏20 جويلية 2007
    المشاركات:
    955
    عدد المعجبين:
    4,132
    مكان الإقامة:
    S&C
    _DSC0942-Edit.jpg

    I think this is the one you mean, Ralph. June 2013.
     
    black5, Crawley Ben و 3ABescot معجبون بهذا.
  12. Big Al

    Big Al Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator

    إنضم إلينا في:
    ‏30 ماي 2009
    المشاركات:
    22,738
    عدد المعجبين:
    22,894
    مكان الإقامة:
    1016
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    (Iron) horses for courses. If what is up front triggers a full train and plenty of income then as it's a charity event with all providers taking a financial 'hit', as I understand it, then what's not to like?

    This isn't for enthusiasts so whether they drool or not is irrelevant, imo.
     
    acorb, 61994, Romsey و 1 شخص آخر معجبون بهذا.
  13. RalphW

    RalphW Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Administrator Friend

    إنضم إلينا في:
    ‏11 سبتمبر 2005
    المشاركات:
    36,565
    عدد المعجبين:
    9,984
    الجنس:
    ذكر
    الوظيفة:
    Retired-ish, Part time rail tour steward.
    مكان الإقامة:
    Northwich
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    :oops: yes that's the one, wrong class of LMS Pacific, a minor mistake. :)

    I think you missed my point Alan, I'm all for motive power that attracts the punters, enthusiasts or not, but it's the fact that this pairing has been accepted without query but the Castle/Duchess pairing was ridiculed by some as being wrong, not authentic etc etc. I'm surprised that the MNLPS are allowing their loco to be sullied by a young upstart interloper. ;)
     
    Last edited: ‏10 نوفمبر 2021
    أعجب بهذه المشاركة Shoddy127
  14. 5944

    5944 Resident of Nat Pres

    إنضم إلينا في:
    ‏14 يناير 2006
    المشاركات:
    8,981
    عدد المعجبين:
    9,508
    الجنس:
    ذكر
    الوظيفة:
    Train Maintainer for GTR at Hornsey
    مكان الإقامة:
    Letchworth
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    You were right first time as well - 6201 and 5043 double headed on 10th March 2013 to Carlisle, but Lizzie failed with a hot box so southbound over the S&C was the Castle on its own.
     
  15. RalphW

    RalphW Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Administrator Friend

    إنضم إلينا في:
    ‏11 سبتمبر 2005
    المشاركات:
    36,565
    عدد المعجبين:
    9,984
    الجنس:
    ذكر
    الوظيفة:
    Retired-ish, Part time rail tour steward.
    مكان الإقامة:
    Northwich
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Of course, that was the one I was on but the photo with 6233 threw me and I began to doubt my memory. :(
     
  16. 46203

    46203 Member

    إنضم إلينا في:
    ‏20 جويلية 2007
    المشاركات:
    955
    عدد المعجبين:
    4,132
    مكان الإقامة:
    S&C
    Oops - apologies. Never saw that one with 6201, waited at Ais Gill, and waited, and waited...
     
  17. TheModster

    TheModster Member

    إنضم إلينا في:
    ‏23 إبريل 2019
    المشاركات:
    902
    عدد المعجبين:
    1,810
    الجنس:
    ذكر
    مكان الإقامة:
    London
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    I think its partially because of how rare and exclusive this pairing is for a number of reasons:

    •It's the most well looked after, most reliable performing steam locomotive in preservation, paired with the (current) newest mainline engine in Britain
    •It's Clan Line double heading with another engine - a rare event in itself
    •Tornado covered Clan Line's Belmond duties while Clan Line was in overhaul, and in 2017 they shared a Bristol Belmond taking a leg each, so have also shared a train

    When you consider the last point especially, the fact they are now working a train together, on an event that's short notice, for charity, and not advertised all over the news (like Tornado and Scotsman 'sharing' trains) you can see the appeal.

    The Belmond being double headed by steam is equally rare in itself - Does anyone know if/when this last happened?
     
    أعجب بهذه المشاركة 3ABescot
  18. 3ABescot

    3ABescot Member

    إنضم إلينا في:
    ‏14 جوان 2019
    المشاركات:
    429
    عدد المعجبين:
    829
    مكان الإقامة:
    Herefordshire
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Double-headed on the pdf download, but not on the web-page itself! On my phone anyway.
     
    أعجب بهذه المشاركة free2grice
  19. GWR4707

    GWR4707 Nat Pres stalwart

    إنضم إلينا في:
    ‏12 ماي 2006
    المشاركات:
    19,346
    عدد المعجبين:
    17,834
    الجنس:
    ذكر
    مكان الإقامة:
    Cumbria
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    That's quite a statement......
     
  20. Steamage

    Steamage Part of the furniture

    إنضم إلينا في:
    ‏14 سبتمبر 2005
    المشاركات:
    4,752
    عدد المعجبين:
    1,129
    مكان الإقامة:
    Oxford
    That's a comment on those who comment on "wrong" combinations rather than the combinations themselves. There will be those who won't go out of their way travel on or photograph this "odd couple" but who won't bat an eyelid about a Jubilee in a close approximation to BR maroon. Maybe GWR and/or LMS fans are more vociferous than SR and/or LNER fans? What a good job we're all slightly different. Personally, I find such combinations interesting but I'm glad they're rare.

    One of the strangest that I've recorded was Britannia (I think) piloting Bittern (in blue with valences) over the South Devon banks

    It's an opinion, and one that's quite widely shared. Several locos have a similar record to Clan Line's. Few have significantly better.
     
    green five و 3ABescot معجبون بهذا.

مشاركة هذه الصفحة