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Тема в разделе 'Steam Traction', создана пользователем acorb, 26 июл 2009.

  1. Pete Thornhill

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    Haulage capacity definitely not an issue which is why they were regularly used on empty stock workings at Paddington and of course in preservation 1501 had no trouble shifting 875t at the Allied Steel works in 1998.
     
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  2. Paul Grant

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    I was on the belief they were Swindon's vision of a USA tank following some of the design cues but the sourceless claims do seem more apocryphal. Just as apocryphally, I've seen it said the GWR wanted to acquire a small number of S100s. It's not the biggest stretch when a tiny class designed far from the usual design standards of the GWR after experience with the S100s comes along. Reading JimCs essay does seem to disagree with my preconceived notions on the class mostly though the comments like me question of the class was necessary.
     
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    Back n the day I’ve seen them from Westbourne Park Station getting away from Paddington with ECS oscillating from side to side with each piston thrust. I’ve often wondered what the footplate crew on the Valley thought of 1501 doing work it really wasn’t designed for
     
  4. Matt37401

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    From what I’ve been told from those in the know 1501 isn’t that bad, regarding its ride, I don’t know if it’s had any modifications in Pres but don’t forget it’s the best bits of 3 of Hawksworth’s Panniers, I think it’s also safe to say it’s probably looked after a bit better than it was when in BR or NCB use.
     
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    I should have thought that preserved line haulage at 25mph is far closer to Paddington ECS work than it is to the work most other preserved locomotives did back in the day. Also all GW 0-6-0T were designed for and did trip work. I think it was Tom in a post here some time back who pointed out that they have far bigger boilers than any dedicated shunter needs.
     
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  6. Pete Thornhill

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    From what I remember, the consensus was as @Matt37401 said much better than expected and actually it rode better than the 57xx pair which put such concerns before it entered service to bed, it wasn't only mechanical condition that saw it jump the queue for it's last overhaul ahead of 75069 but also as it was quite suited to the work on the SVR.
     
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  7. Pete Thornhill

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    IIRC it's not had any modifications to improve the ride, it just turned out to ride better than was initially expected and turned out to be a very useful engine.
     
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    1501 wont "run" like a 57xx but you can get a good lick on. Having 2 sodding great dustbins on the front does make drop joints a bit bouncy but not having 4 springs in the cab like a 57xx gives alot more room as well.
    It can have the appearance of rearing up when pulling a heavy train, one of the reasons why its known as the raging bull.

    Out of the 3 panniers we have, I would choose 1501 over the 57xx's. Easier to prep, easy to dispose.
     
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    I’ve heard something similar, a friend used to describe 1501 as ‘the most un western western engine’ he knew. It’s a quote I’ve used on here before.
    I don’t know much about the quirks and foibles of how to handle locomotives but I’ve not heard a bad word about 1501 from my friends that have handled it.
     
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    [​IMG]

    Photo: Dave Ward
     
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    Finally looking the business. When’s its first test run?
     
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    It's still at the proving stage. The official steam test is due on Thursday.
     
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    Thanks, I hope the membership will be told in advance about its first run
     
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    We have something planned!
     
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    Bit ironic picturing it with an SVR Engineering Services plate on it isn't it?
    I thought the overhaul had been done off-site elsewhere to speed up the return to service?
     
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    Think you are mixing this up with 7812 / 7802. The mogul to my knowledge has been completed all at Bridgnorth, (with significant volunteer input).
     
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    Ok, fairy-snuff in that case

    (did the boiler get done elsewhere then?
    ...I could have sworn there was something about the mogul that it was decided to do elsewhere due to the limited capacity at B'North)
     
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    Nope, the whole job was done at Bridgnorth. The only bits farmed out were the wheels which went to SDR to have the tyres turned. The Hall's boiler was done off-site, not ours.
     
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    Ok - apologies in that case.

    (...I understand the SVR forgot how to use it's own wheel lathe correctly years ago, so farming out tyre turning has been standard for ages)
     
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