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Private Owner Wagons

Discussion in 'Heritage Rolling Stock' started by johnofwessex, Feb 8, 2022.

  1. johnofwessex

    johnofwessex Resident of Nat Pres

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    Private Owner wagons are a common feature of many model railway layouts, and for understandable reasons.

    But...........

    As far as I can see almost all were for 'mileage' traffic, coal, stone and tankers.

    But you see vans and grain hoppers being sold/used

    What sort of wagons were actually 'Privatley Owned' in the pre WW2 era?

    I suspect that many of the models built or sold are of wagon types that would never have run as 'Private Owners' in particular vans and grain hoppers
     
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    The Cotton Powder Company despatched their products in privately owned gunpowder vans from Faversham as shown in the photograph. This picture is copyright of the Fleur de Lis heritage centre 20220208_210350.jpg

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    2857Harry Well-Known Member

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    Hi All,

    I was wondering if anyone could lend a hand with some information regarding Burwarton Coal Merchants of Cleobury and their stock of private owner wagons. I’m drawing a blank through most of my usual sources.

    TIA
     
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    Jamessquared Nat Pres stalwart

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    Milk tankers were interesting - privately owned tanks mounted onto railway-owned underframes.

    (Not sure, but I have a vague recollection that oil tankers may have been similar).

    Tom
     
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    Hi, I don't have much info but this might help you a bit. The full title is Burwarton Coal and Trading Co Ltd and they were based on the Cleobury Mortimer and Ditton Priors Light Railway. I think their office was at Cleobury but believe that they operated out of the yard at Burwarton station on that line. I've been able to find that a Walter Atkinson was involved in the setting up of the company. There is a photo, of not very good quality and taken from a front three-quarters view, of one of their wagons in the yard at Burwarton, on page 66 of the book The Cleobury Mortimer and Ditton Priors Light Railway by W. Smith and K. Beddoes; published by Oxford Publishing Co it is long out of print but available on the second-hand market. It's hard to read the details on the wagon but, judging by the wagon next to it, which I know is black, it looks like it is probably painted grey, with white lettering possibly shaded black, and with black corner plates.

    There is also a short film on the macearchive.org website-look for Morrison:Grand National Trip-which mainly shows scenes in and around Cleobury but does have, at the beginning, an advert for Burwarton Coal and Trading Co written in white chalk on what looks like a large slate:there is no sound on the film but a description of the scenes is there.

    By the way, locally Cleobury is always pronounced Clibbry!

    Not much I'm afraid but every bit of info helps

    Regards, Mike.
     

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