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WCME/CME 2024

Discussion in 'What's Going On' started by mike1522, Jan 2, 2024.

  1. FlyingScotsman4472

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    Many thanks for those kind words John.
    I last visited this exact spot back in 2011 https://www.flickr.com/photos/10257146@N05/5572011678/in/album-72157619301019091/. so yesterday with the wind from the SE it ticked the boxes to go back and what a lovely spot it is.
     
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    A few clips from Saturday featuring LMS 5MT No.44871, seen approaching Shap Summit and Smardale.

    Video Available Here

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  3. RalphW

    RalphW Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Administrator Friend

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    Returning for a moment to the WCME what a contrast for the driver, Steve Chipperfield; on October 07 BIL struggled with adverse railhead conditions and Steve coaxed her from a stand and thro' R&W at 8.5mph, on Saturday with the same number of coaches hauled by 44871 the train "flew" thro' the station at 43mph - FIVE TIMES FASTER! What a difference four months (and a 57) make.

    Thanks to those who posted videos from Shap - the sounds were wonderful. Tangmere does her best but a black 5 sounds like the real deal. I know that a noisy exhaust can mean wasted energy, but it's not wasted on me.
     
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    Spamcan81 Nat Pres stalwart

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    I'd say the 57 made a LOT of difference.
     
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    And so would I.
     
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    Me too. It probably added a weight of around oooo I dunno a Class 57 maybe? That’s definitely a difference. Which probably meant that weight had to be accounted for in powering the train. And I dare say a Class 5 or Class 8 on same/similar tonnage was a consideration. Who knows! Either way that train ran with a lot of happy people
     
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  10. RalphW

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    Not quite sure what you are trying to say, the subject of CDL has only been moved to a dedicated thread as it was cluttering up the WCME/CME thread, it's something we regularly do when thread drift threatens to swamp the original topic. Maybe you just want to make an issue of it?
     
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    Not at all. I was merely saying it’s been moved for now until the same issue crops up after the next CME! I don’t envy your task of moving stuff after every WCR tour this year!
     
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    There is a thread already to discuss CDL as it affects WCRC and the judgement by ORR at:
    https://www.national-preservation.com/threads/orr-and-wcrc.1423255/page-33#post-2861704

    Like it or not, it's only WCRC for whom the matter is an issue. Every other TOC is managing it, it seems.
     
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    Different angle at Shap Wells of 44871 .
     
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    Footage from the 2 WCME's Tangmere has worked thus far (+ the Pathfinder tour):

     
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    What's the verdict on what will be on the WCME on 16th March?
     
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    30th March is scheduled as the first Northern Belle steam hauled so Tangmere is theoretically free on the 16th.
     
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    Thank you Ralph
     
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    The rule of thumb is that a class 47 / 57 is equivalent to 3 coaches (@ 40 tons gross = 120 tons).
     
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    It's only my thoughts, I have no info from WCR on the subject, but as I intend to do the southbound Carlisle to Crewe I hope it is right.
     
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    A class apart David..A real treat!
     
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