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Teifi Valley Railway

Тема в разделе 'Narrow Gauge Railways', создана пользователем Anthony Coulls, 22 июн 2014.

  1. Elizabeth Perry

    Elizabeth Perry Member

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    This July 1st was the 130th anniversary of the first train ever into Henllan and Newcastle Emlyn stations, Not unusual to celebrate the first train.
    Nor to feel admiration for the work of the civil engineering crews who succeeded in building the 6 miles of track with all its bridges, embankments, cuttings, fencing anf buildings without the help of modern machinery.
     
  2. Sidmouth

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    most railways would not mark 130th with probably anything more than a social media post or two . I know you both won't care and won't listen to this but your posts both on here and on the Facebook groups are more a personal war for relevance in the history of the railway and each incremental one devalues the contributions you did make and have no impact on the direction and future outcome for the Teifi Valley
     
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  3. gwilialan

    gwilialan Well-Known Member

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    So should we just ignore the incompetence or blind arrogance or downright belligerence of the current management and their continuing failure to meet the legal requirements of their positions? Noting that they are currently facing their sixth Companies House notice for compulsory strike-off for failure to return accounts?
    I wonder if you would feel the same if it was your favourite railway? One that you had spent many years working for and then been unceremoniously ditched?
    Elizabeth is obviously very passionate about the TVR. Why should she care or listen to your comments? Perhaps a little less criticism would be a good thing.
     
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  4. John Williams

    John Williams New Member

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  5. Sidmouth

    Sidmouth Resident of Nat Pres Staff Member Moderator

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    one thing that experience has shown is railways are not run on social media nor is their path changed by social media . we saw that with the WSR, we see it with the NYMR and for all the posts the Teifi has shifted its course by not one degree .

    Elizabeth sadly isn't the first nor will be the last to be unceremoniously ditched as you so delightfully frame it , and many others previously targeted have found a new home far more welcoming instead. thank fully we have a movement that is a broad church with plenty of choice.

    in my case I found a path that took me onto the board supporting the railway that I care passionately about , and whilst I wasn't quite ditched , the relationship took a turn for the worst before matters got better

    So I speak from experience , does that help ?
     
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  6. 21B

    21B Part of the furniture

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    As I am sure you’d recognise yours is but one opinion. I think it is a question that only those making the posts can answer as to whether it is “good for them”. I don’t have the impression that this is burning up anyone and providing this is so, there’s really no harm in continuing to call attention to the missing filings. If the TVR are concerned then they could try fulfilling their legal duties. As to whether it diminishes people’s prior contribution, I suspect that’s again a matter for the individual.

    The fact that raising these issues seems not have any impact isn’t necessarily a reason to stop. Plenty of cases where repetition over many years was required before something changed.

    The posts (here at least) challenge but aren’t personal or aggressive in anyway. Personally I don’t see a problem if they continue.
     
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  7. brennan

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    Agreed. Viewing a post on this website is not compulsory. if Elizabeth didn't make some comment about the railway probably nothing at all would appear. If you want a rambling, boring, repetitive and pointless conversation then refer to the North York Moors page. This appears to be above reproach so maybe someone has a personal grudge against Elizabeth?
     
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  8. Bikermike

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    Wheras continual raising of the same point is not repetitive? And indicative of a grudge.
    The few posters who did post from the railway have been driven off.
    This continual dirge of regulatory transgressions hasn't changed anything.
    There's no evidence that anything has been done, no letter to the registrar, not attempt to garner support for a positive intervention, just an infrequent moan.
     
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  9. Sidmouth

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    there is a shortage of memory on the thread in that we have lost contributors who updated on what was happening at the TVR as a result of Elizabeth's postings on here . What would you prefer , actual updates or Elizabeth's postings of impending doom ?

    you may live in a NP bubble but across other interest social media groups patience has grown short with Elizabeth . Facebook's narrow gauge enthusiasts group being a case in point where every thread started gets locked
     
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  10. 35B

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    Then I suggest a moderation decision may be required. In the meantime, I suggest that @Elizabeth Perry may have cast herself in the role of Cassandra - correct but destined never to be listened to.
     
  11. Sidmouth

    Sidmouth Resident of Nat Pres Staff Member Moderator

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    many thanks @35B noted and a pragmatic response
     
  12. Enterprise

    Enterprise Part of the furniture

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    If she is unheard and ignored, there is no problem. I hope her views are not to be suppressed.
     
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    It's all well and good saying that Elizabeth's posts are ignored, and personally I wish the current TVR no ill and hope they are allowed to continue to do whatever it is they do, if that brings them pleasure, but if Elizabeth's worst predictions should come true (i.e. the HMRC finally bother to shut down the whole charade; that is if the Charities Commission don't do it first), then what? At least this way, nobody can say they weren't told.

    The posts about not running an event to mark an anniversary of something or other are a bit pointless, though, and maybe distract from the more important issues.

    Just to recap (as I bothered to look it up):
    Teifi Valley Railway Ltd.
    Last accounts to 31/12/20. Accounts to 31/12/21 due by 31/12/22.
    Last Confirmation statement 5/7/22. Confirmation statement 5/7/23 due by 19/7/23.
    "Active proposal to strike off." (However, it seems this has been suspended since 06/01/24.)

    Teifi Valley Railway Society
    "Charity reporting is overdue by 1074 days". (Basically also last filed for year ending 31/12/20 - these accounts filed 01/11/21 (1 day late).)

    The Busy Bee Cafe Ltd.
    Last accounts to 31/12/17. Accounts to 31/12/18 due by 30/09/19.
    Last Confirmation statement 5/7/20. Confirmation statement 5/7/21 due by 19/7/21.
    "Active proposal to strike off." (However, it seems this has been suspended since 23/07/21.)

    www.teifivalleyrailway.wales
    "Work to restore the rest of the original narrow gauge line to Llandyfriog Riverside is now underway. For now, the railway is in good hands and we look forward to a bright future."

    Ho hum. Maybe, just maybe, nobody cares?
     
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  14. Bikermike

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    And?
    How has this changed since the any of the last posts?
    All that has changed either way is that some people who did post from railway have stopped.
    The railway is not advanced by these posts, nor have the feared actions taken place.
     
  15. Miff

    Miff Part of the furniture Friend

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    As far as I’m aware only one person active on the railway @TVR Volunteer has stopped posting here.
     
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  16. Bikermike

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    Pretty sure there was at least one more. But one or two, that is the only thing that these posts have achieved.
     
  17. 35B

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    An issue that they didn't handle well, because the repeated non-compliance with basic legal duties sat ill with their attempt to present a positive face.

    Which is frankly why I suggested that @Elizabeth Perry is a Cassandra figure; there is no disputing the accuracy of what she says, but it is not being heard.
     
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  18. Bikermike

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    I repeat my earlier question
    How has this thread changed anything?

    Has there been any change to the status of the railway caused by this thread?
     
  19. 21B

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    Is there any change you can point to in any railway that is as a direct result of any thread on this forum? Forums are simply a means of sharing information and views. The fastest way to silence the complaint that a legal duty isn’t being met would be to discharge the duty. Now that might not have been in the gift of those that posted here, but there was no reason the two sets of messages were incompatible, and for a time they were.
     
  20. Sidmouth

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    I love this modern day notion that because you have raised an issue on social media it will somehow magic unicorns and something will happen and the posters conscience is clear that they raised the issue. I get it a little more if there is a broad community related to the railway , so the more focussed groups , but on this thread until this current intervention there is Elizabeth and one or two others who occasionally comment.

    If those of you who care so much about the accounts not being filed , have you approached the railway with an offer to help , especially if you have expertise in the required areas. That ultimately will make a difference .
     

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