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LSL - The Chairman's train: 16/04/25 on, plus 10/10/25

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    71000 approaching Winwick Junction earlier.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/90397953@N02/54844674292/in/photostream/
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/90397953@N02/54845780834/in/photostream/
     
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    Bodorganboy, Oct 10, 2025 at 7:32 PM
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    Update at 2000.

    71000 1Z89 still in Carnforth goods loop.

    37401 1Z90 dep 1948 to Upperby with the chairman's train.

    Andrew N
     
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    one would like to think that in circumstances like this differences could be put aside to assist steam, and the proximety of Carnforth could be of assistance to 71000.
     
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    Going through Lancaster and the issue can be heard clear as day !
     
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    There the bang seems to be once per revolution of the driving wheels, whereas in David's video from Leyland there's a somewhat different sound once per several revolutions.
     
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    One from a little further back at Lancaster (not my video)
     
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    looking on Traksy , 71000 looks as if it is sat in the loops at Carnforth . A different time and could have been sat on 10A
     
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    Sadly, I don't think that's going to happen.
     
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    You would hope someone might have loaned them a spanner over the fence..;)

    I still chuckle at the sight of the LSL liveried 57 hauling West Coast branded stock at the SVR diesel gala, anything can happen on neutral ground!!
     
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    I hope the issue with 71000 isnt too serious and it can soon be back & meet its commitments for the rest of the year. There's something about The Duke that excites me even more than most steam locos, I think its a loco we are still learning about.
     
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    Another non-expert view coming up. The noise is a panting sound that sounds like steam not exhausting as it should. @osprey suggests a poppet valve and he could be correct. The good news is that I don't believe such valves need lubrication, so any mechanical hiccup is hopefully not a serious one. Caprotti valve gears are clever but tricky.
     
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    Everything that moves needs lubrication, either dynamically or hydrostatically...
     
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    Don't let's digress but I'm not certain you are correct on that. My comment was really to do with what happens when a key component loses its lubrication. I always thought that a poppet valve was different. I'll leave you to visit Google. :)
     
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    And it was all going so well. In hindsight I wonder if those involved wish they opted for that final test run on Thursday. Anyway, here's some brief shots of the Duke on a charge !
     
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    No need to Google.

    Poppet valves are akin to four stroke i/c engine valves. Whilst the valve/port seat face doesn’t need lubricating as there’s no sliding contact, the valve actuating stem must certainly does.

    IIRC on Caprotti gear, the whole cam box is oil-filled, which will lubricate the valve stem from above.
     
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    Indeed. I think the statement is misleading and should refer to the valve seat, which requires no lube, whereas piston valve rings do...
     
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    I shot this through a train window this morning

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