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eclipse and coalition

Discussie in 'Narrow Gauge Railways' gestart door rough-shunter, 27 aug 2009.

  1. rough-shunter

    rough-shunter Guest

    does anyone have any info about eclipse and coalition the converted bagnall 0-4-0 electric locos at llecwedd im currently working there and find it slightly discusting that they are stored exposed and are in very poor condition in my eyes they are NRM worthy but what of there past .
     
    rough-shunter, 27 aug 2009
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  2. Achar2001

    Achar2001 New Member

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    Both were, as you say, Bagnalls - Eclipse was converted in 1927 from Dorothy of 1899, The Coalition in 1930 from Edith built in 1890.

    Slate Quarry Album, by Gordon & Ann Hatherill and published by Roy Link (ISBN 09538763 2 2, now I believe out of print) has pictures, details and side elevation drawings of both locos.

    Regards

    Andrew C
     
    Achar2001, 27 aug 2009
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  3. SillyBilly

    SillyBilly Member

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    Lots of people think that they deserve better, but they are owned by a business.
     
    SillyBilly, 27 aug 2009
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  4. Richieboy

    Richieboy New Member

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    Interesting point that, does that mean they may be available for sale then?

    Mind you, I guess anything could be for sale - at the right price of course!
     
    Richieboy, 28 aug 2009
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  5. rough-shunter

    rough-shunter Guest

    indeed ritchieboy at the right price ,
    the locos have no interpretation or infomation about them and are outside i think i shall have a poke about
     
    rough-shunter, 28 aug 2009
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    Idriverussell New Member

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    Even if you were to buy them, you could never restore them as they are mostly rust. I popped in to the quarry in April, they are a forlorn site!
     
    Idriverussell, 4 sep 2009
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  7. rough-shunter

    rough-shunter Guest

    the Bodywork is mostly corroded but below there they are fine
     
    rough-shunter, 5 sep 2009
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  8. SillyBilly

    SillyBilly Member

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    Shall we take that as a proffesional opinion?
     
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    Wow that's very defeatist don't you think, what about the likes of Duke Of Gloucester or more close to home Palmerston on the FR they were mostly rust at one point.

    Tim
     
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    Armatures rewindable, controllers able to take mag blow-out coils, contact arcs in good nick then? :rolleyes:

    They are shagged - you stand more chance putting a boiler back on them and returning them to Bagnall/Adamson condition - getting them back into operational electrical condition would be astronomical. You might be able to get the wheels to turn if the armatures/commutator haven't mated together in a rust sandwich.
     
    Marquis DeCarabas, 9 sep 2009
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  11. Anthony Coulls

    Anthony Coulls Well-Known Member

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    First things first - get them under cover, and former Llechwedd management were advised of this 2 years ago.
     
    Anthony Coulls, 9 sep 2009
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    Has anyone got any photo's, even from a few years ago ?
     
    Pesmo, 10 sep 2009
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  14. rough-shunter

    rough-shunter Guest

    the management are looking at all areas of the site at the moment and are very open to ideas
     
    rough-shunter, 18 sep 2009
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