eclipse and coalition

does anyone have any info about eclipse and coalition the converted bagnall 0-4-0 electric locos at llecwedd im currently working there and find it slightly discusting that they are stored exposed and are in very poor condition in my eyes they are NRM worthy but what of there past .

 

Both were, as you say, Bagnalls - Eclipse was converted in 1927 from Dorothy of 1899, The Coalition in 1930 from Edith built in 1890.

Slate Quarry Album, by Gordon & Ann Hatherill and published by Roy Link (ISBN 09538763 2 2, now I believe out of print) has pictures, details and side elevation drawings of both locos.

Regards

Andrew C

 

Lots of people think that they deserve better, but they are owned by a business.

 

Interesting point that, does that mean they may be available for sale then?

Mind you, I guess anything could be for sale - at the right price of course!

 

indeed ritchieboy at the right price ,
the locos have no interpretation or infomation about them and are outside i think i shall have a poke about

 

Even if you were to buy them, you could never restore them as they are mostly rust. I popped in to the quarry in April, they are a forlorn site!

 

the Bodywork is mostly corroded but below there they are fine

 

Shall we take that as a proffesional opinion?

 

Wow that's very defeatist don't you think, what about the likes of Duke Of Gloucester or more close to home Palmerston on the FR they were mostly rust at one point.

Tim

 

Armatures rewindable, controllers able to take mag blow-out coils, contact arcs in good nick then?

They are shagged - you stand more chance putting a boiler back on them and returning them to Bagnall/Adamson condition - getting them back into operational electrical condition would be astronomical. You might be able to get the wheels to turn if the armatures/commutator haven't mated together in a rust sandwich.

 

First things first - get them under cover, and former Llechwedd management were advised of this 2 years ago.

 

Has anyone got any photo's, even from a few years ago ?

 

If you can follow this link you will find another discussion on these, with some pics from working days and also as stored I think. It is a modelling forum I think.(which I hope is OK to put on?)

http://forum.gn15.info/viewtopic.php?t=5297

also about half way down this page.

http://www.narrowperspectives.ukgeeks.co.uk/c816981.html

Else a good old google search is the way forward.

 

the management are looking at all areas of the site at the moment and are very open to ideas