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Black Five nicknames

Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by willig, Oct 7, 2009.

  1. Orion

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    That's much more likely!
     
  2. Martin Perry

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    Yes, but I have also heard the name applied to Stanier 5MTs.
     
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    I never heard Black 5s referred to by this name at all when I lived in Scotland.
     
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    "Mickeys"

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    Yes, BR painted one in apple green - I have a photo of it in a book somewhere (it looks ridiculous!)
     
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    That is not correct. Some B12s participated in feed water heater experiments. This used exhaust steam to pre-heat the water before it entered the boiler. I understand that the gear was ACFI (Societe l'Auxiliaire des Chemins de Fer et de l'Industrie) feed water heating apparatus. This was mounted above the boiler, and consisted of two heater drums and a single steam cylinder which operated two water pump cylinders. The first of these drew water from the tender into one of the drums where it mixed with exhaust steam. The heated water flowed into the second drum, where the second pump drew it into the boiler. All three cylinders were double acting. B12s fitted with the ACFI heaters were popularly known as "hikers" due to their appearance of carrying a hiker's backpack above the boiler.

    I believe that wehen the original 'hikers' were withdrawn, the Stanier Class 5s acquired the same nickname, at least in some quarters.
     
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    The Ivatt class 4 2-6-0's were known as Flying pigs (because some thought they were ugly I would imagine) and to a lesser extent the Mucky Ducks
     
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    In my part of lancashire it was;

    Black 5's - Mickeys
    Jubilees - Jubs
    Scots - Shielders

    Got to love the variation...

    My God this has brought back memories!
     
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    Here's a link to my photo of 44932 in its green livery at Carnforth - probably in the 1970's..

    http://clive-hanley.fotopic.net/p25824780.html

    Its alongside two other "mickeys" - yes thats what we called them... north of Liverpool in the 60's.

    Other nicknames...

    Pates (Patriots), Jubs (Jubilee), Scots (Royal Scot), Prinees (Princess), Semis (Coronation). It was only quite recently that I realised that Semis was derived from Semi Streamlined when they had sloping smokeboxes etc.

    I've never heard the "Winny" expression before. A general term for locos with smoke deflectors was "Blink or Blinkers"... That was the shout when one was seen approaching from a distance before more accurate identification was possible.
     
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    Windshields were almost always called blinkers on my stretch of the GN.
    Those who wished to be technical called them smoke deflectors.
     
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    Amusingly, local slang continues on the railways today.

    A nickname that is very specific to Toton depot and yard is "Jocko" for a shunting locomotive. It is still regularly used to this day to describe an 08 or 09.
    There is a theory that has linked this nickname to a batch a Jintys built by North British that were once allocated there.
     
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    I'd suggest that Jocko is not unique to Toton. It is used in many other parts of the country to refer to a pilot loco and has been for many a year.
     
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    Did anyone refer to the 9fs as " Spaceships " probably because of the high pitched boiler leaving a large gap above the frames ?
     
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    Up in north Lancs (Lancaster) we called 'em 'blackies.' We thought that our fellow spotters from Preston were strange cos they called 'em 'mickies.!!!
     

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