Fictitious liveries

Yes, we all know the NRM policy on renaming engines, originality, livery,etc....

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Since when has Tornado been an NRM engine? :smt017

 

60103/4472 IS a NRM engine

60163 is a privately owned engine, which has been shedded at the NRM

Would Brunt like to clarify which kettle he is referring to?

 

Sorry missed type the number meant Tornado 60163

 

I remember walking round the sidings at Cranzahl narrow-gauge station (sorry not Sorge!) in East Germany, in 1978, and of the 15 or so coaches present, it was difficult to find two in the same shade of green. Which one of them was in the correct DR coach livery?

 

Perhaps an interesting tangent to explore might be whether we in the preservation movement feel we are in the history business or show business?

You don't get much more fictitious than Thomas, but the little blue b*****d provides many railways with a significant percentage of their gross annual income. Many railways strive to put on events which boast authentic stock/loco combinations and 'recreations' of past events such as last train services etc. - and there's another one - what about loco's wearing the wrong name/number?

 

Exactly..

Which one pays more.. thats the one to be in.
Show business pays more by far... however that doesnt mean History cannot put on a show (i.e. a gala) however I believe railways need to integrate more with their surroundings..the successful ones already have (WSR , NYMR etc and look how their streets ahead of some of the others)

 

75069 at the SVR was not painted green while in BR service, it was always black.

 

Owing to the lateness of the hour, I do not have time to research in depth, but stainless steel numbers & lettering, with no side valence, together with Garter Blue livery was certainly applied to some, if not all, A4's as they were overhauled after WWII. The stainless steel numbers were even carried after renumbering into the 1 - 34 series, and, after nationalisation a painted "E" prefix was added, although the stainless steel "LNER" on the tender was replaced by a painted/transfer(?) "British Railways". Mallard ran in this condition in the 1948 Loco Exchanges, of which there are several oft-published photos.
4495 Golden Fleece (and others?) even ran in black with stainless steel numbers/letters (and no valence and no chime whistle).

 

Tornado in BR blue anyone?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p7SK2q0eV8

Nicely done.

 

Much prefer it in green thanks all the same!!! Might look nice in black though...

 

Why not ? as 8P's thery would of worn it at some point and there's very few loco's that can authentically wear BR Blue, underated livery IMO.

 

I have always thought that this was a good idea. Instead of galas having lots of guest locos, why not renumber their own fleet. This would be a lot cheaper than the transport costs incurred bringing in visiting locos. It adds variety and there will be lots like me that will travel to see these long lost locos.

 

i guess by now 4472 and others are more accurate in inaccurate livery than original, having worn them so long...

 

Wouldn't that defeat the point of having a 'special' loco if you would just renumber another one to suit?

 

How many locomotives were really painted BR Blue, and how long did this colour scheme last ?

I think locomotives do look nice in Blue and it's nice to see in preservation, but was this colour scheme widespread ?

 

That's amazing - no idea how you'd do that but it looks very convincing. For me that's the only decent alternative to the LNER green. Both look right, whereas that dull ex-Gasworks green looks awful on non-GWR loco's. It's OK on BR classes of course, as they never ran in anything else, but how about a video of say a Brit or D-of-G in LMS red, or LNER green, or BR Blue - that would be worth seeing! (Though I can't imagine apple green on a Belpaire box for some reason).

 

I understand we are to get blue then brunswick green so yah boo sucks to the lot of you :smt077

 

Just showed it to Mrs S , she wants it in red with white furry "trimmings" !

 

I think most, but not all, the 8P locos were in blue and many of the A3 class.

The reason the livery was withdrawn was that it didn't wear well. I would imagine that today's two pack paints would be better but there are photos of clean blue engines that look dreadful. The changeover to brunswick green started in 1951.

'Sir Nigel Gresley' looks great in blue, really good.

Regards