Lizzie on Camden Bank, The Doric Olympian, 06/03/10

My pics from the day as promised, obviously not as good as those linesiding a record of the day non the less: http://david1984.fotopic.net/c1822773.html

 

I noticed that as well - also audible on my vid. I heard them later in the day dragging and being slow to release.

AK

 

Well you would go round using these funny Crewe devices with 21' of Vac *runs for cover*

Cheers for the compliment Ralph, though they don't really compare wth some of the vids and pics already posted.

 

On the contrary, he must be the luckiest guy alive, in all cases the loco just passed him before Richard Branson had his say in the proceedings! Going on the opposite side on such a busy line is just asking for trouble. As we went along in our coach, the numbers of people who were "bowled" by Pendolinos was incredible! Three times people were even bowled by freight trains! From our point of view on the train we found it hilarious of course, but its not so funny when you're in their position!

 

Problem is that some people have no idea what steam was actually doing in everyday service back in the "heyday". There are for instance, in John Powells "Stanier Pacifics at work" several runs with Princess Royal Pacifics on the Royal Scot from Euston to Crewe (Page 24 if anyone has the book). These are obviously runs selected to show what the loco's could do, and run 3 is with the great Laurie Earl of Camden shed with a load of 493 tons - 54 tons less than Saturday's load of 547 tons. In particular towards the later stages of this run engine 6212 passes Tamworth at 66 mph and then runs the subsequent 48 miles pass to pass at Crewe in 45 minutes. On Saturday evening 6201 covered this same stretch start to stop at Crewe south 47 miles in 47 minutes, which most reasonable people would consider at least comparable and probably better than the 1938 run with 6212 given the 11% overload which 6201 was contending with. The fireman told me that much of the work was done on around 10% cut off and full regulator at max boiler pressure, and certainly the safety valves blowing off at every easing seem to indicate the truth of this claim. How anyone can accuse such work as ambling along, I am not quite sure, but it does seem to indicate a certain lack of understanding of the realities of what steam really did in everyday service.

Sorry PJH liners a bit more study is required. If you want Pendolino times there is only one place to get them, and it's not on a steam train.

 

Well said that man. Non better than Laurie Earl, "The little man who loved speed!" That was the realities of everyday steam back in the day and we came very close to that indeed. Who'd have thought that in 2010 we could do the WCML with a "Lizzie" on a representative load - I still pinch myself to see if I'm awake! Superb.

AK

 

My Day worked out quite well..

6.20am at East Croydon to see 70013 on the ECS
8.30am at Mid Hants to see 850 + 60163 L.E. to Alton
11.15 left Mid Hants after seeing 60163, 850 depart, 92212 arrive
12.45 Clapham to see 35028
13.30 Kensington to see 6201 arrive.
14pm-5pm Pub tour with Neil, Ralph and Matt (good to meet up)
5pm see 6201 depart and missed the train to Harrow to see 6201 again, leaving Ben abandoned on the train
6pm to Nandos for chicken !, 8pm in bed until 2pm on Sunday !

Pictures to come.

 

Got my 2 vids uploaded now,as well as a couple of extras:

Part 1 (Camden bank,towards end)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8cMH-jRF9c

Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noHTpiFzki0

35028 at Clapham Junction
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hywk1NIFRQM

47773 departing Crewe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vWj5j8Vh8E


Cheers,
Mark

 

Is it not a case that people often think of the 'Big name' crack expresses that ran with 6-8 carriages behind a class 7 or 8 and therefore were fast and forget that 99% of the trains that larger locos hauled were in fact long heavy trains?

Looked and sounded fantastic through Harrow, although I got the impression that the smoke seemed to like hugging the smokebox, seemed very drifty, but assume it wasn't the case really?

 

Hi all,

I popped out to see Lizzie heading south on Saturday and my photos can now be found on my fotopic site.

http://paulgildersleve.fotopic.net/

Cheers,

Paul

 

6201 PRINCESS ELIZABETH with the "The Doric Olympian", Sat. 6th.March.2010.

A couple of images of Class 8P PRINCESS ROYAL 4-6-2 6201 PRINCESS ELIZABETH with "The Doric Olympian" that I took while following this working around London have been added to my fotopic site. Link below;

http://preservedrailwaylocomotivephotosbyrichardsmith.fotopic.net/c1826972.html

Regards Steamhawk216.