BRAKE VANS- National Network.

3155, there is a private message for you.

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Chris:

 

send me a private message, i might have a Queen Mary 4 dale

 

There appears to be something amiss with my sent messages, mods can you please help?

Reagrds
Chris

 

im sertaly serosly intrested in fully restord Queen Mary brake van i would bite your hand of for it. a magnifacent gards van that i have always wonted

 

Ah but are you aware that it is an LMS one and not a Southern Railway one?

The main differences being that the Southern Railway one have elongated ends with sand boxes, gates to the veranda,s and are fully fitted and not just through piped.

I have to admit that when I enquired about this one , I was unaware that LMS "Queen Mary,s" existed.

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Chris:

 

i had heard that there was a LMS verson lerking around. but thats not to much of a problem as evon thow im am a southern man i do love the LMS as and there diziners that created the 7F on the S&DJR is brilont. as of most peopl S&DJR is my favrot railway

 

I was aware the LMS did build a bogie brake van or two but not that any had survived... is there a photo anywhere?

 

Eric Tonks book on the Leicestershire Ironstone has a good picture of one of the LMS bogies used for ore trains, think it was for the Holwell branch?

 

I meant of this (alleged) survivor.

 

Yes Phil , I have three I will PM them to you.

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Chris:

 

woud you mind sending sum pics to me to would love to sea it thnx

Alex...

 

Hi Alex, there is a private message for you.

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Chris:

 

OK, the photos show a standard LMS 4w brake van (concrete weight version). Most certainly NOT a bogie brake van and not something I've ever seen referred to as a 'Queen Mary' before.

Ho hum. It was a nice fantasy, for a short while.
Phil

 

To clarify the S.R. 'Queen Mary' situation, the only vehicles still awaiting restoration are one at Foxfield & one at the Severn Valley, both of which are owned by individuals. There is one other at a private site in the Midlands, which was the last one on the network (at Bescot).

Bob.

 

I have always understood that Queen Marys were the LMS version.
This from the mid 70s when 2 were acquired for Steamport Southport by a member who was involved with BR Freight in the North West.

 

The one at Foxfield has been subject to many offers to the individual that owns it from within the society, it's such a shame as a it would to such marvellous van in operation, especially for rides on the bank...

Rich

 

And from without...

 

Has anybody tried to acquire the 'Queen Mary' from the Severn Valley ,or is that another one which will sit there forever.
The one at Foxfield is complete steelwork wise but needs all of the woodwork replacing & a major preparation & painting job.
It could probably be restored for £3 - £4 k using volunteer labour.

Bob.