The Pride of Swindon 5043 to Carlisle via the S & C -16th October

Thanks for clearing this up guys. So 5043 can add the S & C to the routes that it has blitzed in the way we all knew GW locos can when well handled and with good coal.

 

I know unofficial banking goes on. We used to do it with class 20's out of Runcorn. TPWS has however put a stop to that. Could have had it isolated of course. Not sure what operational advantage power on would have given, it certainly wouldn't have helped the Castle. Will make enquiries Monday.

I find it unlikely that Tysley would advertise a Pride of Swindon railtour and collect a substantial amount of money from the passengers and then have it assissted in the rear. I can understand WCRC wanting it on as insurance given the time of year. They needn't have worried the UP is blasted clean every afternoon.

 

Got a couple of pics tonight of a Castle sitting under the roof at New St, i'll add them on Sunday when Fotopic stops throwing a paddy (get it sorted fotopic btw).

 

Great performance from 'The Earl' and her crews, thanks to all involved with the tour for a stirring run. My video now available;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Hq7nl9NpCU

 

Some stunning pics guys and and nice video too acw71000, certainly sounded as though the 47 was just idling when it left Hellifield.

I guess Alastair Meanley would have been firing on one leg but who else was involved?

 

Brilliant video Austin. After its Shap triumph, I think someone on here said that the REAL test was the S & C. There is now proof for all to see that 5043 can tackle anything. The safety valves are blowing in all the videos and the loco is totally on top of the job. Well done to the Tyseley boys and all concerned.

 

Assistance southbound, where did you dream that up??????????
Talking to the driver and mike notley, who was in the cab of the 47 all day to actually record such things, the diesel was never even in 1st notch at any point on the south bound run.........
But as you seem to know everything you'll probably still not believe this!
P.S did you manage get all the photo opportunities northbound you previously predicted???

 

Talk to anyone on Tysley's Red Dragon this year and you might change your opinion

 

This topic is supposedly about 5043 having a run oop north. I've seen more about the sodding diesel on the back. Albert Seymour (that's him in the driving seat) has said what happened, Mike Notley has had a word, and still people are prattling on about whether the diesel pushed or didn't. If Mr.Seymour says no, end of, what's the problem?
Nat. Pres. at it's best. Keyboard warriors. :frusty:

 

Box rage has really come to a head recently...

 

http://www.tyseleylocoworks.co.uk/vt_whatsnew.htm

 

a shot of the light engine at leyland on friday http://www.northwestrailphoto.fotopic.net/p67688780.html

 

I'm delighted to be corrected and hear there was no assistance given. When you're out in the countryside things can sound louder than they are, as was obviously the case with the Duff where I was. The noise from the Duff in the Birkett video still suggests to me that Notch 1 (as the driver indicated to Ralph) is a possibility. If that was the case then it would've been a load equivalent of somewhere around 11 and if it wasn't, then somewhere closer to 12 or 13 wouldn't it? I'll look forward to Mike Notleys analysis. Have we any provisional speeds / timings?

Obviously my previous comment about the northbound climb was somewhat tongue in cheek after previous GW outings over the S&C. I spent several years living in the south west enjoying the performances of the GW locos over the Devon banks and there should be no reason at all that they can't make it out and back over the S&C in a competent fashion. I don't believe a King or Castle will challenge the performances of 71000, 46229, 6233, 60532, etc. and all but the die-hard GW fans would be realistic enough not to expect that?

 

Here's my humble offering, warts and all !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUNoim42DZM

 

Many thanks for the stunning pics and videos posted so far. When I see stuff like that it makes me want to pack it all in and come and join you guys standing in the middle of nowhere!!!
As for the great was she or wasn't she debate......well if she was, Brush have built a 47 that runs as quietly as a Rolls Royce.
Seriously though, as someone has already said on here Mike Notley was in the cab of the 47 in both directions purely to give an unbiased report on happenings so I suggest all the doubters wait until his report appears in print. Mind you even then there will still be people who will doubt it.
All in all I personally had an excellent 36 hours out on the railway, footplate Tyseley to Crewe and Hellifield to Crewe a night at the "Carnforth Hilton" and no doubt in my own mind that The Pride Of Swindon was restored over the S&C.

 

Entirely correct my man! The reason for the Bescot business in the first place was that the Sutton Park line was closed due to a possession on saturday evening. The diesel was used as the pilot from crewe to save on coal and water, which it was felt might be low after the day's exertions, in reality there probably was enough left last night, but the big railway is no longer a place to "think" that you may have enough, you have to be certain. Fulll marks to Andy Taylor at west Coast, and more importantly, to NR's LNW Zone ops managers for a splendid piece of pragmatism that worked perfectly. No reports as yet of BNS burning down, although what the late night revellers made of Dean M's "crow" on the whistle when leaving the station can only be speculated.
Bob

 

Dear doubter of Dalry,

I know that someone of your bias is forever unlikely to wish to believe an unpalatable truth, but the diesel was not pushing at all when 5043 topped Ais Gill on the return with 50% cut off, full regulator, both injectors on, safety valves feathering, and with 353 tons of train, plus an effectively dead 47, controller in off position and doing no more than providing ETH. You should note that the controller had not been in anything other than OFF all the way from Carlisle, and I have the data recorder to prove it.

Right now, I can't see much need for a re-run, 470 tons on the back of an engine that only has a 30 sq ft grate doing what it did yesterday puts it in pacific territory in my book.

Bob Meanley

 

Would you expect Leander to outperform Duke of Gloucester then ?, a Castle is a 7P, you could thrash it all day and it woulden't touch a Duchess, the two are not comparable.

Anyway i finally managed to add my pics from New St last night:

http://david1984.fotopic.net/p67701010.html
http://david1984.fotopic.net/p67701011.html
http://david1984.fotopic.net/p67701012.html

A bit grainy and the 47's front end is a little blurred on the moving shots but you need 1600ISO and a low shutter speed (1/25) to get enough light in, certainly i think the content excuses the quality in this case, even Ray Churchill got off the footplate swiftly to take a pic last night!, understandably she was kept quiet under the roof, but certainly let it's presence known on departure with a few blasts on the whistle, wonderfull stuff.