Sat 11-Jun THE WELSHMAN

Not so sure of that. If it was a West Coast diesel loco on the back there would have been a 50% chance of that failing as well. <BJ>

 

More drivel.
She managed the 1 in 60 of Parkstone Bank unassisted from a standing start earlier in the tour. Even my fanatical GWR mates said what an impressive climb it was. On a previous tour she took the heaviest recorded, for steam, unassisted load up the considerably steeper Upwey bank. So no I don't think it wasn't the lack of a diesel which caused her to stall.

 

You can see it coming, NR are going to rule that there MUST be a diesel attached on steam tours. All steam tours.
Just my opinion.

 

Reports got to the train was on, the Shrewsbury trip that Tangmere triped the TPWS, how much truth in that I don't know.it

 

And? If there had been a loco attached on the rear the train wouldn't have stood so long. Funnily enough the name of the game is to get to where you are going on time, without delaying anything else, hill climbs that give steam queens tingles don't really come into the equation.

 

DO YOU HAVE TO KEEP STIRRING IT ABOUT DIESELS ON STEAM TOURS & CONDEMNATION OF STEAM LOCOS. THINGS ARE BAD ENOUGH WITHOUT YOUR SARCASTIC COMMENTS! I HAVE ALREADY COMPLAINED ABOUT YOU BEFORE BECAUSE OF THIS! (And those posts got deleted by the mods). You may be an obvious diesel fan, but keep your sarcastic steam comments to yourself. (Sorry about the caps, but wanted to get my point across).

I haven't reported 50031's posts, but mods if you see this please deal with this poster as appropriate, all he does is wind people up & stir it.

 

Unfortunately - and I have alluded to this many times before - and as referred to in post #62 above, there is a temptation with some promoters to keep on going for fastest, heaviest, first, unique, etc etc on the national network - and it HAS TO STOP. The Network is no place to be playing silly games and whilst in another thread I have criticised Network Rail's agreeing proposals on which it later reneges, professionalism works both ways

The result of pushing the boundaries is RISK, and that is RISK of mechanical stresses, TDA penalties, etc, and no business should be going there with its eyes wide open.

We've had 5029 on Llanvihangel, 45407 on Glencruitten, and now this - and whether or not it was an unexpected loco fault, tripping TPWS or whatever, when real train movements in the public timetable get delayed and real passengers get inconvenienced, operation of any special will come under the microscope.

Any professional railwayman with a love of steam will agree with me - if the puffer nutters don't and can't - they may find that they bring the solution down on their own heads.

The standard railtour cannot keep on relying on load twelve and over with class five etc locos.

 

I just found it so sad to see dear old Taney come to a halt in these videos-the power of the moving picture.
Let's hope our friend can find an early cure and won't be in the sick bay too long.The old chap has done well so far for it's age.

..so have the rest of the loco;s.Bless em!

 

So there's the mentality of 50031 for you, best not interact with him/her unless he/she has something worthwhile to say.

 

Very interesting reading on there! More childish than here (if that's possible). You have to log in to read it though.
More of 50031's infant school antics, seems he has been warned on here already (yellow cards) & he jokes about it.

Oh, But I do.....
Got all sorts of points and yellow cards, can't think why.....
Got to admit, poking kettle neds is almost as much fun as poking certain people on here

Can the mods please take note.

 

So, back to Tangmere then...

 

The biggest issue here appears to be the fact that 34067 could not restart the train un-assisted. Therefore the train must have been over-loaded for the route. The loads over the some routes eg S.Devon banks are adhered to strictly whereas some appear not...

 

Have you not seen the video sequences of Tangmere hauling it's train up the incline out of Bristol? The train was travelling at quite a pace until it stopped suddenly. It was not a case of the train being overloaded. If it was I'm sure that Network Rail would not have allowed Tangmere to return to Poole via the Severn Tunnel and Upton Scudamore bank later in the day. <BJ>

 

I am so sorry to hear about Tangmere yesterday and I agree that the video up the initial climb of the bank out of Bristol shows her to be master of the task. And let us not forget that it was a dry rail head so greasy rails was not to blame for the sudden stall.

I remember Tangmere stalling on a Xmas Steam Dreams Carol service trip to Winchester when travelling in the Surrey Hills. It took several minutes of to-ing and fro-ing but eventually, against all the odds, we got away. Magical.

On that day, I put it down to the extraordinary skills of one PETE ROBERTS. Here was a man who knew the Bullieds inside out and capable of doing the unimaginable, even mastering the steam reverser.

So the question remains. What caused it to stall. TPWS is my guess.

But then it needed the mastery of a man who knows this class of loco to get started on a 1-in 75. IT NEEDED PETE ROBERTS!! (Pete's not my Dad by the way)!!

 

Pete Roberts was the driver when Tangmere took 11 coaches out of Weymouth unassisted after the diesel caught fire

 

I was at Cardiff yesterday, to see Tangmere's ignominious arrival behind the 47 - I went back to see it leave at 16:16 as timetabled - 34067 turned up light, and a few minutes later left. Clearly the whole thing was thrown out of kilta/kilter (?).

No point trying to second guess the causes yetawhile, methinks.

 

Out of kilter? You don't hear that expression very often.

Tangmere has returned to Southall arriving at 13:47. <BJ>

 

Can anyone explain what happens after TPWS has operated on a steam loco?
Who can reset it? Who is allowed to reset it?
Would the driver be allowed to carry on after it had operated or would a new driver be needed?