The most crappiest or pathetic locos in this country.

The LMS Fowler 2-6-2 tanks for starters........

 

The 5th loco of the Rainhill Trials, Perseverance or the broad gauge Hurricane, that probably wouldn't have been able to move itself, never mind an express train!

 

I'd go for the Cycloped which was also an entrant for Rainhill which was basically a horse on a treadmill. Apparently it couldn't generate the same speed as the other competitors. But looking up Perserverance it does seem a useless loco damaged on the way to Rainhill, had 5 days of repairs and ran on the 6th day at 6mph.

But to be fair it was 1829 so it was the early days of railway operartion.

 

County Tank 4-4-2.

 

Whatever it is, someone will want to build a replica!

My candidate for this dubious award would be a Brighton I1,

P.H.

 

Surely the Paget locomotive deserves an honourable mention for not only being thoroughly useless, but used less than any other prototype in history, sans the Leader class engines...

 

obviously nothing GWR belongs in here.Oviously

 

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Great Western Railway 'King' class

 

I could not agree more!

 

Good!

Before everyone turns on their computers and spits out their cornflakes my comment is a joke (spelt j-o-k-e)

 

LNER B1. Hard to admire compared to a Black 5 or Hall.

 

Honourable? In a thread with this title? In which case the Leader then also deserves a nomination. A bold and innovative design - but it didn't work.

 

Not too sure of that. By all accounts, when new there was little to choose between a B1 and a Black 'un. After 40,000 miles, though...

 

If the King is rubbish, surely that would imply anything built by the LMS after Stanier arrived was also rubbish, since they were little more than stretched versions of it?

I think the 56xx when it arrived qualifies, particularly as it was completely unable to fulfill its design criteria, go round sharp, poorly laid bends. It was pretty good after Caerphilly fixed them, but i think it qualifies as a deeply strange design even then.

There was also a broad gauge tank whose designation escapes me (I think it was a 2-4-0), that was so bad it reportedly fell off the turntable at Swindon and never ran again. Which wouldnt have been so bad except it was a prototype its first turn out.

Class24/Class25? That they are doubtless very useful on todays heritage lines shouldnt disguise the fact they had a job hauling the skin off a rice pudding unless they were double headed when in service.

Class 17. Which is a shame, because I think it was potentially one of the more useful (and most interesting) of the Type 1 diesels.

 

Not a relevant thread.

To my knowledge there were only ever two classes of steam loco built.

Bulleids Merchant Navys and Bulleids Light pacifics.

Both superb classes of steam loco, and neither could possibly ever be subjected to the cr.. word.









LOL!

 

As a south western devotee through and through, much as it pains me to say, but a lot of Drummond's output wasn't much cop. For all the wonders of the T9s and and the solid durability of the M7s and 700 goods, you have to take into account a number of pretty ropey designs: the E10 double singles; or the 4 cylinder 4-6-0s (the "paddleboxes") built to operate the Salisbury Exeter expresses but demoted within a year onto night time freights.

The fact that many of his designs were either withdrawn or quickly modified so extensively as to be essentially just accountancy rebuilds, whilst the older Adams designs and Drummond's simpler 4-4-0s that they were built to replace soldiered on for many more years, suggests that the LSWR wasn't brilliantly served by Drummond, at least not as a designer. (As a workshop organiser and as the man responsible for transferring the works from Nine Elms to Eastleigh, he served the company well).

Still, if I won a few million on the lottery, I'd rebuild the Drummond Bug (the carriage body survives, so it would be a rebuild, not a new build!) - purely for personal use so I could gad around the country visiting preserved railways in a private capacity


Tom

 

I wondered how long before somebody said diesels.As its a thread in "Steam Traction" I did think that even the most die-hard steam fan would not mention diesels. But there you go.

Now back on Topic.

If its usefulness then I dont know that much about steam performance but having seen a Schools class at the Severn Valley slip and slide when nothing else did were they up to it???
Looks it has to be the Q1........cant find words to describe it.....

Sorry Southern fans its nothing personal.I would be glad to be put right on the Schools class though.

 

Duke of Gloucester, seems to spend more time broken or being fixed than in running.