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7800 Manor Class

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  1. Great Western 175

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    7800 Manor Class

    How Many Are There Preserved In Britain

    What Are Their Current States

    And There Locations
     
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    Not perfect but a start
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GWR_7800_Class

    Oddly enough this is one of the few classes of main line tender locos for which all have steamed in preservation. I don't count the classes where only one of the class survived. Manors were lucky in that a total of 9 are still with us out of the 30 built.
     
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  3. Pete Thornhill

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    Another interesting fact is that 75% of the survivors are based on two railways. Again disregarding one off survivors, I don't think that applies to any other class of steam loco.
     
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    1 Didcot 7808
    3 SVR 7802,7812,7819
    3 WSR 7820,21,28
    1 Llangollen 7822
    1 Paignton 7827

    so 6 out of 9 which by my maths is 66.67%
     
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    Ok lol I added it up wrong - left off 7808!!! However dont think there is any other class where so many members are based at two railways (correct me if I am wrong!)
     
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    S15's; if you group both the Urie and Maunsell versions together, then of the 7 survivors 86% are based on 2 railways (Mid Hants (2 Urie/1 Maunsell) and NYMR (3 Maunsell)). The only other extant example is 847 (Maunsell) at the Bluebell.

    Alternatively if you just want to include the Maunsells, then 80% of the 5 are at 2 railways.
     
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    not a good night is it Pete ! too much fantasy threads i fear
     
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    Panniers come close, with 3 at Tyseley and a couple at SVR and Didcot respectively.
    Or 4575s with Llangollen (2) & DFR (3).
    Std Tanks Bluebell (2), Swanage (2) & Midland Rly Centre (2).
     
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    Sorry Pete! Although I'm slightly scared at my own 'Statto' post...

    Thought there were 3 Standard 4 tanks at the Bluebell; 80064, 80100 and 80151?
     
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    What about Castles too?

    Tyseley have 5 based there although Defiant is on loan elsewhere, Didcot have 2, Crewe has 1.
     
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    Forgot about '64!

    5029, 5043, 5080, 7029 and?
    Didcot have 4079 and 5051, with 7027 Crewe.
     
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  12. ADB968008

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    some approximately mad statistics...

    100% of Stanier Moguls are at the Severn Valley :)
    0% of V1 tanks are in the UK :)
    60% of the original 71000 is still part of the locomotive, whilst 5% is in York and 35% of used to be a 9F.
    you could say 105% of 71000 still exists..
    1% of 6399 still seems to exist and has run in preservation (even if only a few weeks).
    Flying Scotsman is only 60% of the the preserved LNER A1/3 fleet.
    33% of a V2 still exists outside Doncaster station unpreserved
    45551 could be 1% Turkish, 1% Jubilee, 30% Crab, 1% LNER


    as this thread is about manors... 55% of them are not Great Western, whilst maybe 40% of the GW ones are not genuine Manors, but 43xx's
    Statistics can be such wonderful things and yet still meaningless.
     
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    Yeah but the std 4 tanks don't come close to the manors as there are 15 survivors dotted round the country!
     
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    Yes but we were not including sole survivors!!!
     
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    How did you come up with 5? Not these days!!!, 7029, 5080, 5043 and 5029. If you were including 7027 then that is in Watermans care - mind you that is a number still with 4!
     
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    And for a few weeks we had '7800' itself re-created because 7827 ran as Torquay Manor on the Paignton-Kingswear line earlier this year. Reverted back to its true ID now, but nevertheless still looks super in BR black!
     
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    Didcot 3650 , 3738
    SVR 5764,7714
    Dean Forest 9681
    Toddington 9642
    Keighley 5775
    SDR 5786
    Tyseley 7752,7760,9600
    Quainton road 7715
    Llangollen 7754
    Pontypool 9629

    Panniers nowhere near close
     
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    7 out of 14 at 3 places. Not far off 66.6%
     
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  19. Pete Thornhill

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    Ha ha you missed one if we are talking 57xx/8750's only - 4612 BWR!
     
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    Which also alters your figure!
     
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