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DELTIC - DP1 now at Preston - its birthplace.

Discussion in 'Diesel & Electric Traction' started by Clive Hanley, Aug 21, 2012.

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  1. Clive Hanley

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    With my grateful thanks to the staff at the Ribble Steam Railway I was able to take a few photos of the prototype DELTIC inside the museum last Sunday. I'm not sure how long it's planned to be there but I'm told it may be allowed out for display purposes if there is no rain forecast at a forthcoming gala. NRM rules state it must not be rained on. (Fully understandable).

    My photos are here: Clive Hanley Photography | 19 August 2012. DELTIC at Preston. | Photo 1

    use slideshow option for best effect.
     
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    Grand, truly grand. :hail:
    Where can I get some of those EE door kick plates? I'll nail them to the Jaguar. :car:
     
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    Some parts look decidedly grubby, and just look at the rusty pipe next to wheel.
     
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    I'm sure Procast could soon knock some up....they would look good on the door cills...
     
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    Ashame we will never see her turn a wheel in anger.
     
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    Perhaps not - but what would be gained, really, that you can't experience with one of the production series?

    Another point; isn't she a little larger overall than the production locomotives? Is she actually 'in gauge' for NR?

    Mark
     
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    Lovely stuff Clive, thanks for sharing.
     
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    Excellent photos, very well done in such a confined location.
     
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    I see your point, but that's a bit like arguing against restoring a Royal Scot on the basis we have ~6/7 operational black 5s. Might be similar, but they are different locomotives.

    But like you say, it's too large (for mainline). Not to mention the state of its innards so you'd need a hefty engine transplant or a lot of brand new components.
     
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    On the production models the horns were moved from the roof to the bonnet. I couldn't see any horns in the photos. Were they knocked off by a bridge en route?

    In the 1950's English Electric produced the Lightning fighter and in the 60's they did a lot of work for the TSR2. In between EE gave us the Deltics. When I look at the dashboard of a Deltic I'm convinced the aircraft division did most of the design work there.
     
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    In RAF circles the company was known affectionately as English Elastic. :) They also produced a number of household appliances and I remember an advert for kitchen appliances that played heavily on the fact that they were designed and built by the same company as designed the Canberra and Lightning jets.
     
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    We took the horns off the roof to get it in and out of Shildon during regular shunts and under the wires at York, she's too tall. Bogie steps off too, as she's too wide with them on.

    Hopefully our friends at Preston will find a few minutes and a long ladder to get them back on.
     
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    The power units were not standard with the later production Deltic locos and could not be interchanged.
     
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    I understand DP 1 will be on display in the town centre for next weekends Preston Guild celebrations, there had been hopes that on the low loader she could have joined the procession through the streets, but size ruled this out.
     
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    Great shots Clive, thanks for sharing :)

    Deltic isn't just my favourite diesel locomotive, she's my favourite locomotive full stop :D

    I would quite happily remortgage the house, and sell the wife & kids into slavery, for one chance to ride behind her :)
     
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    Sadly, DP1 will not be on display in Preston City Centre or in The Guild Procession, as the loco & low loader are out of gauge for the route
     
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    DP1 at the Deltic 50 event: English Electric Archive - Class 40, Class 50 and Class 55 Deltic locomotives | 2011 Deltic 50 | DP1_20111008_02

    DP1 iconic styling: English Electric Archive - Class 40, Class 50 and Class 55 Deltic locomotives | DP1 DELTIC | DP1_20111008_05
    DP1 impressive cab interior: English Electric Archive - Class 40, Class 50 and Class 55 Deltic locomotives | DP1 DELTIC | DP1_20111008_08

    Archive photo of DP1: English Electric Archive - Class 40, Class 50 and Class 55 Deltic locomotives | On Shed | DP1_19550000_01 at EE Netherton Works in 1955
     
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    Just to make you green with envy, I have travelled behind her on a Euston to Crewe run when she was on trials, I've no idea of the date as I never kept any records.

    Just looked at Wiki and saw this,

    "The ultimate Deltic performance came on 2 February 1978 with a run on the 07:25 from Newcastle to King's Cross. In some respects the run was set up (the driver was about to retire) but the speeds were record breaking. The locomotive was 55 008, it was hauling 10 coaches (343 tons gross) and on the leg from York to London it achieved a timing of 137 min 15 sec. This included various signal stops and other enforced speed reductions, the net time is estimated at 115 min 45 sec, an average of 97 mph start to stop. The train achieved 113 mph on the flat between Darlington and York, 114 mph at Offord and 125 mph whilst descending Stoke bank."
     
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    Well the driver was a very naughty boy. :wink: :clap2: :madgrin:
     
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    I think the "about to retire" bit was the relavent section.
     
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