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45699 Galatea

Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by TonyMay, Apr 3, 2010.

  1. polmadie

    polmadie Well-Known Member

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    Re: Galatea

    45593 and 45596 - YouTube
     
  2. mike1522

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    Re: Galatea

    I have been noticing for about a week now that there is a tba after 44932/48151/tba. Is this one of the Jubilees, possibly?
     
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    Re: Galatea

    Probably. My update got some what lost in the Lune Rivers Trust thread - it was that according to the WCRC train manager on that tour, Galatea is still highly likely to be having its steam tests the back end of this year, plus they are also hoping to have Leander ready at around the same time. Granted this isn't necessarily factual, but coming from a WCRC employee it's the closest thing we've had to an update from someone who is very likely to know more than he was letting on.
     
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    Re: Galatea

    The post must be on another thread, but someone mentioned a few weeks ago a mate seeing "a boiler" dropped into frames at Carnforth the same day the crane lifted the boiler off the Southern pacific they have there now. If that was Galatea's boiler, then maybe apart from tubing, you dont drop the boiler back in unless you have done the major platework renewal. I recall that the wheelsets were reported as ready some time ago, including the new set to replace those cut at Barry.

    As we have said before, we need to respect Carnforth's privacy on this, and one sunny morning 45699 will be seen in steam in their yard! Cannot wait!

    As a complete aside, is there now too much regular traffic on the Settle & Carlisle for a "plandampf" style event?

    ...8F, Black 5's, Jubilees, 46115, etc etc....
     
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    Re: Galatea

    What would you use to haul the 2000 ton air braked freights with ? (A couple of airbraked mainline approved ertified 9fs would be ideal but...)
     
  6. paullad1984

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    8F, Jubilee, 5MT?
     
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    Re: Galatea

    Off topic question, but I have always wondered how tubes are attached to the front and rear tubeplates?
     
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    Re: Galatea

    Very briefly, on locomotives, they are basically expanded into the tube holes with a tool known fairly logically as a tube expander. Tubes in the firebox are generally then beaded over to prevent the ends from being burnt. An alternative, little used these days, is to fit a ferrule into the tube, which protects the tube end from being burnt and is sacrificial. Tubes aren't generally beaded over in the smokebox except where the ends are likely to come into contact with smokebox char and around washout plugs. On industrial boilers, which don't have any copper tubeplates, the tubes are quite often welded in after expanding and this is sometimes done with loco fireboxes which are made of steel.

    Have a look at: http://www.heritagerailways.com/docs/HGR-B9001-Is01-TubingOfLocoBoilers.pdf
    and: Installing flue tubes in the boiler of a steam loco, Ropley, Mid Hants Railway, UK - YouTube
    There are other videos if you search.
     
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    Re: Galatea

    Not sure of the truth of it but Steam Railway are reporting that the 45699 is substaintially complete and the tender is in Green undercoat.

    We'll have to wait and see I guess.
     
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    Re: Galatea

    Also mention's WCRC's "it's our business & not yours" approach.
    Not public friendly one iota.
     
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    Re: Galatea

    I have a query are the West coast steam engines owned by the PLC company, Indivdual or a charitable trust ?
     
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    Re: Galatea

    I think 48151, 46115, 45699, 44932 and 5972 are all owned by an individual. David Smith who and correct me if I'm wrong on this runs West Coast Railway's. 34067 is also owned by someone connected to WCRC.
     
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    Is 44932 running with 45699s tender?
     
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    Re: Galatea

    According to Alan Warren's book "Barry Scrapyard - The Preservation Miracle" - Galatea's Green Tender she had in BR days became the last Stanier tender at Barry and was bought by a Group restoring 45491 at Fleetwood in January 1982 (it was a suprise that it was the last one as the tyres were less than 1/4 worn). 45699 had already left Barry (without the tender) having been bought for spares.
    Has this tender found its way back to Galatea or has it followed 45491 to Loughbrough?
     
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    Re: Galatea

    Do you tell everyone what you're up to with your private property? Thought not so why should David Smith be any different?
     
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    Re: Galatea

    Slight difference, I'm a private individual. WCRC (and others) are in the public eye. Other loco/railway groups/owners are only too proud to "show off" their achievements. You are with 34081.
     
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    Re: Galatea

    Didn't Tyseley have a a spare Stanier tender that was sold to the Galatea Trust when the loco was there? Why would 44932 be running with 45699's tender? It has always had its own since purchase from BR.

    In response to an earlier question, I'm pretty sure that 48151 and Olton Hall are Mr Smith's property, and 44932 may be as well, because I think there is another co-owner (or was at he time he bought the share that was on offer. 6115 and 45699 on the other hand are are owned by a Trust. I thinkthat is the situation, no doubt someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
     
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    Re: Galatea

    Even if we did have up to the week news availible on 45699, at the end of the day it won't make it run any quicker.
     
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    Re: Galatea

    34081 is a charitable trust so somewhat different from David Smith who, funnily enough, is a private individual just as you are. Being in the public has has nothing do with whether David chooses to publicise what's happening to his property.
     
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    Re: Galatea

    44932 is running with 5699s tender. it was completed before the overhaul of 44932 was finished. and as its own tender needed work it made sense to use the completed one. I was told this by a guy who works for WCRC. and also a black stanier tender tank with british railways on the side was still sat outside the north end of the loco shop long after the black 5 had returned from overhaul.
     

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