Identification of diesels a brief dissertation by Jamessquared

Somebody is taking this thread far too seriously...

Tom

 

Ahh, Deltics. More clag than a kettle on bad coal but, despite being the top link locos on the East Coast, they had totally rubbish horns. Sound like a goat with asthma.

I'm really looking forward to Tom's later installments on the different classes of diesel multiple units ...

Richard

 

Oooh crikey, aren't they all the same? All I know about DMUs is that when catching one in the old days from Reading to Redhill, the driver would ask all the passengers to get out and push in the vicinity of Dorking...

Tom

 

A bit like steam engines being "all the same"? There's a chap on here - goes by the name of M59137 (must be some sort of secret code) - who can apparently spot the difference between each class from the range of about 75 miles. And that's with his eyes shut.

Looks like the teacher has got some homework to do ...

Richard

 

I'm sure he does it aurally - their luggage racks and opening lights probably vibrate at different frequencies - so you have the 101 MHz, 108 MHz etc, tune in to them just like VHF? :music: (That'll be the last lift I get from him :doh

 

Like a bit of MetCam thrash do you Sheff? As long as your mate doesn't do it orally, I don't mind.

If you fancy a bit of Deltic horn action, have a listen here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVVqpVCAOzU

Told you they were rubbish!

Richard

 

Deltic horns do seem like a bit of an after thought, I assume they started by fitting an LMS whistle and went from there.
Then again HST horns aren't that much better.
G# and E# I believe.

 

Your disparaging remarks have been noted. Do not be surprised if you wake up next to a horse's head.

 

Should have travelled in the old Cravens units on the GN. We passengers had to push them all the way to Kings Cross, even on the downhill sections.

 

Really !! Your hearing needs correction - Deltic horns sound like strangled ducks !

 

Ahh Deltic horns. When first built they must have been fitted under/behind the buffer beam. Later they were moved up onto the nose. They were odd horns and not made by Westinghouse or Desilux like most of the other diesels.
We had the same make of horns fitted to the MOD Army Rustons I used to drive. I took one apart once to see if I could improve the sound. The diaphragm was held in place with a rubber ball type arrangement with a small locking nut device.
The same horns were fitted on the SR EMU's & DEMU's when the whistles were removed and also the class 73's & 74's.
Hope this is of some use......My guess is BR got a good price on a 'job lot'
Andy

 

:shocked: :shocked: In 53 years of marriage I don't recall ever having an offer like that. I hope you obliged the lady. :madgrin:

 

Thank you for your contribution. :mmph: :mad2:

That's it, the book is out and ready to receive names.

THE DELTICS WERE THE FINEST DIESEL LOCOMOTIVES ON THE RAILS. :director::director:

AND THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THE HORNS

I've noted yon Fred Kerr fella as well. :mmph:

 

well the Devil had horns and he was no good either.

 

Calm down, dear! I was just saying that Deltic horns don't match their performance. They should have a full fanfare of trumpets, not some wheezing goat/duck/(insert animal of choice).

By the way, did you know that HST horns are only a major 2nd apart in pitch, rather than the major/minor 3rd of other locos? Don't know whether this was deliberate to warn track gangs that they might get squished at high speed.

Think we need to move some of these posts to a new 'Hornzzzz' thread, so Ralph doesn't get too distracted. It might get more people visiting the forum from Google too, but maybe not for the right reasons.

Richard

 

Hang on, hang on, now I am getting confused. I spent a good couple of hours searching the interweb thingy for "Big Hooters" and frankly it was a pleasant couple of hours, though I didn't learn much about diesels. :redface: But now everyone seems to be suggesting I should be searching for "getting the horn" instead? Have I been using the wrong search terms all along?

Tom

 

Class 41:


Lego train:


See?

 

I accidentally stumbled into it, you see... I'll go and say 100 "Hail Mar-EEs" in penance...

Now, amongst my studies in large horns, and as a special benefit for Richard, who feels that the horns on a Deltic should really be a fanfare to match their performance, is this what you had in mind?

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Would certainly make any trackside worker stand well clear if they heard that coming towards them at 100mph...

Tom