Another one for the chop!

92085 was cut at Barry in 1980 along with a few others around the same time.

 

3817, 4156, 76080? Wasn't the smokebox of 3817 put on display somewhere?
Not forgetting D601 & the class 21.

 

76080 cut up 4/72 the centre drivers were on display on a trail in the Potteries area before going to the 82045 group.
3817 cut up 3/73 iirc the smokebox and a wheelset were on display on a trail near Blists Hill.
4156 cut up 7/80 the wheels went to the SVR for 7325.
92085 " " IIRC the cylinders were salvaged.

D600 was also cut up at Barry in 1970. (D601 & 6122 went in 6 or 7/80.) When Woodham's were short of wagons they cut up a few locos to keep the men busy but it also served to keep preservationists 'on their toes'. Ray.

 

D8206 was also cut up at Barry.

 

The smokebox fron 3817 is still there, although with a fibreglass chimney, as the original was acquired for 2859 at Llangollen. It does still contain a 2-row superheater header.

Bob.

 

92085's cylinders are at Sheffield Park - so I believe, they were acquired at the time as possible replacements for those on 92240.

Tom

 

After just reading SR today I still can't believe 92245 will be sectioned in the near future. Surely the better idea would be to use 92245 of spares. Reading the bluebell motive power thread a few weeks ago. It was highlighted that 92212 has now been stopped with a defective firebox. According to the Jamessquared 92212 now has a crack in the firebox and will need specialist welding. Surely this highlights the need to keep 92245 for loco parts. I wonder how long after 92245 is section before a 9f group needs one of these large items. Be it a cylinder or even a boiler? Remember when 73096 had a cylinder go bang. From memory that cost around 80k. Surely that should send alarm bells ringing about not cutting large expensive loco parts up.

On the same topic does anyone remember why 92245 became part of the Barry ten for?


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On the same topic does anyone remember why 92245 became part of the Barry ten for?


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Yes no one else wanted it

 

Makes a mockery of 92207 spending hard earned cash on new pony wheels really...
The loco could have had 92245's and the money spent elsewhere on the loco if it was known 92245 was to be gutted after all these years.

48518 could still make a great sectioned Barry exhibit... There's some knackered wheels it could swap for another 8f, frames, rusted cab make a mockup boiler, I'm sure there's plenty other knackered parts that could be donated by railways to be scattered on the floor to make a scrap pile.

Still there's hope, they exported an imported 8f, sold a boiler for a black 5 hoping for an 8f one to come and swapped a std4 for a turntable, so they could still swap the 9f for a tunnel or an R186 signal box yet.

 

It will be a sad day in railway preservation when 92245 becomes sectioned. Here we are butchering an ex BR loco which is a modern steam loco from the 50s and on the other hand we have groups of people trying to fund rise to build new locos that disappeared at the end of steam. The ironic thing is that some of these new builds will never see the light of day. When sitting at Barry is a loco that does exist and is in need of cash and resources to allow it to steam again.

 

Is there no Great Western Railway engine that can be recreated out of a mix of 8F and 9F bits?

 

92245 hasn't had pony wheels since the early 1980s.

 

Why do you think that 92212 had these problems with the crack in the firebox Lee?

Anyone else care to comment please?

Regards
Chris:

 

While I agree with the people that say it's not a good idea to section perfectly good parts, the project should instead swap them out for cracked/damaged/etc ones, and section those instead, I'm not sure I can agree with this.

The point of the different treatment for new builds, and some old engines, is that for many of the 'new build' projects, they are re-creating an engine which has no class-mates still in existence, so for people who want to see/experience one, the only choice they have is a new build project. (Or something like that - for Tornado, IIRC, the fact that it was the last design in that particular class was a draw, too.) Now, that may not seem worth it to some (I myself am not particular about types of engine), I can understand it. And given that there is not a bottom-less pot of money for keeping old engines etc running, if there's a class which has a number of survivors, I can see the logic behind saying 'well, we don't really need one more'.

Noel