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Clan Line to Exeter - 30/6/13

Discussie in 'What's Going On' gestart door Big Al, 24 jun 2013.

  1. steamvideosnet

    steamvideosnet Well-Known Member

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    It should be diesel hauled only from Westbury to Salisbury, not all the way back from Exeter.

    James at SVN
     
  2. Paul42

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    I agree. That is want happened with the trip with 30777 in 2007.
     
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  4. Big Al

    Big Al Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator

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    So this all looks like there's a problem with the Yeovil - Salisbury section on the return as that is effectively what is being bypassed with the Westbury diversion. Has a bit more ballast been shovelled on the track under the A30 bridge in the Sherborne area as clearance there has always been tight?

    So I guess we have a DL attached at Exeter that we have to tow all the way to Westbury and then we are drawn round to Laverstock where there's a final reversal. Another massive load for Clan Line to lug up Whiteball and Porton....and as expected a very long day. I still don't understand why SD insists on leaving after breakfast. Shunting all the times an hour forward would make so much difference to people getting home on a Sunday night
     
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    Why have a diesel tagged on the back of the train from Exeter? DB has a 'shed' load of them at Westbury. Why not attach it there?

    On the plus side for the linesiders, two steam charters between Castle Cary and Westbury in 30 mins.
    70013? running from Weymouth to Bristol and Clan Line from Exeter to London. <BJ>
     
  6. Paul42

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    The diesel is shown on the front Westbury to Laverstock and on the rear Laverstock to Waterloo on UK Steam. See http://www.uksteam.info/tours/t13/t0630a.htm

    We might be going via Westbury on the return beacause it gives a better and earlier path back to London.

    The late departure from Waterloo in the morning might be because Steam Dreams have taken into account, that service trains into London on certain routes start later on a Sunday.The earliest train from East Grinstead on a Sunday is 8.20 while on a Saturday is 6.37 and 5.58 on a weekday. I always drive to Woking for trips to Exeter.
     
  7. Steamage

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    Comparing this trip to 60009 on The Royal Duchy 3 weeks ago, No 9 was allowed 35 mins to Taunton start-to-stop with 9 coaches. Clan Line is allowed 37 mins start-to-pass with probably 11 or 12. That doesn't look like a DL schedule to me. As I said earlier, I don't see why they'd put the DL on the back at Exeter and the 25 min stop at Westbury supports that. The only reason I can think of for adding the DL at Exeter would be to get a sub-5 minute reverse at Westbury.
     
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    Would a train be allowed to reverse over the level crossing at Exeter or will it need a box to pull it back into the station?
     
  9. BR 73082

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    I think the Westbury reversal might also have something to do with Glastonbury being on this weekend. I believe Castle Cary is the nearest station to the festival so having this train stop in the station for a while might not be ideal whilst some are trying to get home.
     
  10. green five

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    Sorry for the rant. I had a very bad day at work yesterday and then finding out about the timings was the final straw I'm afraid.

    Tickets came through today. We are in Coach L and are looking forward to a day out with 35028 as she never disappoints.
     
  11. alastair

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    no worries, totally agree,with 35028 should be a really good day
     
  12. Big Al

    Big Al Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator

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    I'm also in L. I also agree that although it's a long day - especially for the support crew - with 28 up front there is the prospect of three decent non stop legs: Woking to Salisbury (Laverstock if you like) each way and Exeter to Westbury. That's good value.
     
  13. KentYeti

    KentYeti Guest

    And there was I thinking some of the shorter start to stop sections between Salisbury and Exeter, if unchecked, could be the most interesting part of the day!
     
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    That's intensively used single line for you.
     
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    Any idea on the load? I'm in coach M which would make it 12 passenger vehicles with the kitchen and support coaches it would be 14 which can't be right.
     
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    unless there is a box on the back all day?...... please not!
     
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    The lettering often includes the catering vehicles, so looks like 13 including support. And if support is "Coach A", then it's only 12.
    Hey, why so gloomy? Clan Line often takes 500 tons of VSOE unassisted around the North Downs. Actually, make that 600 when there's a 67 idling on the back.
     
  18. KentYeti

    KentYeti Guest

    I imagine one day it will be back to a double track railway. :)

    With Clan Line leaving Waterloo at 11.00 and arriving at Exeter at 13.58. :) :).
     
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    Why not? 14 mixed Mark 1s / Mark 2s is rather less than the load of the Devon Belle (13/14 Pullmans, which are considerably heavier) which MNs used to take unassisted over Honiton in the 1940s/1950s.

    Tom
     
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    IIRC last years run was load 13 outwards (around 490 tons) and 13 + Class 66 (around 600 tons) on the return over Whiteball.
     

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