BR Brake Van Interior

Does anyone have any photographs please of the interior of a BR brake van, in particular showing the paint finish inside the cabin? Alternatively any painting diagram or instructions please?

Many thanks in advance.

Nick

 

Hi Nick,

I think it depended partly who painted the van and when. I saw a colour picture of the inside of a van used on coal traffic on the Denby branch and that seemed to be brown all over. With all the coal dust blowing in that might have been more practical on that operation. There is a black & white picture on P.100 of "British Railways wagons" by Don Rowlands, which suggests cream walls, black brake standard and stove area, number in black letters on the inside above the guards ducket, varnished inside of door.

Tim

 

Thanks Tim, appreciated. I quite like the sound of cream walls with varnished inside of doors, have to see what the owners think.

 

I seem to remember red below the waist, cream above on BR std vans. Ray.

 

My own LMR van is nearly finished with brown lower walls, stained benches, cream upper walls, white ceiling. One bench left to complete.

Tim

 

Not sure about the inside, but here's a couple of ideas for the outside

http://www.flickr.com/photos/johannes-j-smit/3153575910/sizes/z/in/photostream/

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/in...ttach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=219173

 

That second picture's a Southern one isn't it; I put one of our SR vans on the Goods Shed road for the buffer packing pieces to be done this week, I wonder if Sam fancies getting carried away...

 

Yep, one of Eastleigh's finest no doubt!

 

When I rubbed by BR (ballast) van down, evidence suggested grey/white (sometimes known as "stone") upper walls with red/maroon lower walls. Ceiling was white. Floor was unpainted i.e. naturally (filthy black) wood.

I don't know if yours has a table, but that level is where the join was between upper/lower.

 

I got this British Transport Commission info fro the NRM reference library a few years ago.

B.T.C. Spec. 32A For Covered Vehicles & Vans
Item
13 Canvass Roof Paint.
14 .....................Finishing Paint.
20 Stone Colour for Brakevan Interiors above 3' 6"...........B.S. 381C 361 Light Stone
16 Freight stock Red for lower walls up to 3' 6" & external body on fitted & piped vehicles.
30 Freight stock Grey for unfitted vehicles...................B.S. 381C 693 Aircraft Grey.
75 Pale cream emulsion for interior wood surfaces of containers and vans..........B.S. 2660 4-056 of 1955. (Nearest B.S 4800 10 C 31.)


The interior colour used by the LMS was all over Middle Brunswick Green with a white ceiling

 

That's ideal, thanks everyone.

 

Interesting that there was a colour for "interior wood surfaces of containers" as none of the ones I've seen show any evidence of ever having being painted internally. I suspect that any such treatment would be limited to ones designed to carry foodstuffs (but I am guessing).

 

Don't know about containers but I do know that the inside of BGs and guards compartments were painted BS381C Red Oxide/Freightstock Red in all areas likely to be scuffed e.g. lower walls, inside of doors and cages etc and cream above 3'6" on the walls. Later in the Rail Blue era this became Light Admiralty Grey or Rail Grey.