Its safer by road ???

Mallard was once mainline registered and I don't know if this is a factor. Can Pac was also towed cold when it went to Eastleigh a couple of years ago (it was a lot cheaper than the road move) and that required only a UAT. If not under power the vehicle is just that, a vehicle, so as long as the brakes work..... In Can Pac's case the motion was left in place with the piston rod split off from the crosshead IIRC. A word of caution though...as we found it is was not able to travel faster than 45mph without a lot of vibration, and unfortunately NR had timed it for 75mph down the Portsmouth Direct! This did lead to a few delays. I'm not sure this is a viable methodology for the majority of moves. I can't really see why NR couldn't accept a loco in steam being towed provided it had a valid boiler ticket, was only in steam for lubrication purposes not traction, and wasn't leading the train. After all if you move a non-mainline diesel it simply needs a valid UAT and FTR. Someone more expert than I can probably answer why this isn't allowed.

 

Think you might have pathing issues there Melter due to wheel diameter, and you'll need to include a couple of suitable wagons for coal and water supplies!

 

Now thats what i am talking about,
helpfull comments, i will have the waggons and a tank by the end of the day ( honest),
The Pathing issues,!!!! i think my wheels are bigger than a tampax machine and they get paths ok so i will go with that.
just need to fit electric lights.
Where do i apply.
anyone want a firing turn? my grandson (sorry, apprentice) is a little short in the arms and legs for my liking.

The Melter

 

Although it would be towed, any locomotive entering the mainline network needs to be at least registered on TOPS, and I would suspect have a UAT and FTR passed on it. Although this was a good decade ago ( Year 2000 ) , J36 No. 65243 and Standard 4 No. 80105 visited Polmadie and were in steam for the entire move ( with all motion in place ), piloted by a diesel. Also included in the consist were several of the diesels based at the B&KR, along with a few coaches.

I'd imagine the exact same could happen now. As long as a steam engine is registered on TOPS ( or newly registered ), and completes a satisfactory UAT and FTR, there should be no reason for the locomotive to proceed in steam, with motion complete, if it has a boiler certificate.

What happens in the case of moves in and out of Didcot? Didn't the Railmoter, when being constructed, have to be mainline registered in similar fashion?

 

And to add to the comments above, 46512 was towed while in steam from Aviemore to Kingussie earlier this year, having passed the FTR exam as if I recall correctly she was overhauled (and is maintained to) to MT276 standards. I believe there was a 25mph speed restriction (although feel free to correct me!)

 

So a TOPS registration number and 25mph max! I can live with the speed.
how do i get the TOPS number.

The Melter

 

92212 certainly doesn't like going by road as she has gone through a fair number of springs which seem to be broken after road haulage movements.

 

Wasn't that how some bulleids moved from Swanage to Eastleigh a few years back ?

 

Pretty much everything into or out of Didcot needs a TOPS numbers, FTR and UAT unless it's going to spend the rest of eternity in there, as an aside, how the hell would you get Firefly out or indeed Iron Duke in ?.

9F's have no choice with low loaders seeing as NR won't accept them over the centre driver/ check rail issue.

 

OK the knotted hankie and spam sanwiches are on me then.
The Melter (off to the seaside)

 

I think that was the case and forgot that when I posted earlier. Another factor is of course the start point/destination. If either or both are not rail connected then road it has to be.

 

I seem to recall 34028, 34070 and 30053 were in light steam, too.

 

Was 60008 registered for its tow through York station earlier this year?

 

Oh Shoot another opportunity,
Anthony get the kettle on buddy,
Rhyl to home via York it is.

Keith

 

60008 and 4489 had fitness to run exams and UAT certs for slow speed transit across from the Carriage Works to NRM site only, running through piped between two air braked vehicles. They are not fit for longer distance towing without a deal more attention and operational vacuum brakes.