34073 moved?

Looking at the phone taken of 34073 at Carnforth what parts are there that would be needed for 34067. I can't see what could be swapped over on to 34067. Unless 34067 needs another wheel set or there's a possibility of overhauling the boiler and putting it on to 34067.


Cheers

 

34073 has already given up most of her valve gear I believe. As has been touched on, if she's to be a donor loco there's only the big bits left.

 

Certainly reduces out of traffic time if you have spare major components prepped and ready to drop in.

 

Hypothetically, are the boilers interchangeable directly with the rebuilds?

 

According to the Facebook post (someone with some knowledge on whats happening but wont say what) has said that it is being used as spares for a Bulleid, but not Tangmere. So..... wasnt there the old rumor of 3 of Mr Bunchs engines being sold to Carnforth?

 

35018 is there and being overhauled at the moment. There are some common parts. Anyhow, lets just wait and see. If there is one company with the means to restore 73 it is WCR, no worse than Galatea surely and Mr Smith obviously likes Bulleids.

 

Hmmm......

35018 under restoration at Carnforth by WCR
34073 moved to Carnforth to "donate spares"
Hmmmmmmm................
1 x Crank axle
1 x middle cylinder block
1 x chain tensioner
2 x chains
1 x oil pump
2 x filters
2 x pressure gauges
motorbike chain for oil pump
3 x rocker shafts
3 x intermediate valve rods
3 x sets of Bulleid/ Walschaerts valve gear
Some sheets of steel
some bronze castings
a lot of copper pipe
etc

 

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. Laying out that list of parts makes for some potentially pretty damn interesting, even silly speculation. However, here goes! If you can safely bore 2" out of a 16" cylinder to make an 18" cylinder, and apply a bit of 'cut and shut' here and there, you get what a LOT of people would like to see... An Un-rebuilt Rebuilt MN. Quite apt that it could be the prototype Rebuilt that could get the treatment, and is one way of getting around the idiosyncracies of the locomotive in operation. Just a shame to say goodbye to 34073 in the process, but there'd always be hope as long as the frames remain and there money to be thrown at it.

Alternatively, it could be something as mundane as a driving wheel swap, as happened between 34046 and 35011 at Williton. We'll just not know for sure now its entered the Kremlin!

 

Sorry, I don't understand this post. Are you saying that 34073 has all these parts available which could be used as spares elsewhere? Really? In its current state, it still has various oil pumps and so on still waiting to be utilised elsewhere? Or are you saying that is is what is needed to complete the loco? Or what?

Tom

 

to spell it out, he's suggesting un-re-building an MN with whatever parts might be on '73 plus (a lot of) new parts

 

Dream on!

 

I thank you!
As for the middle cylinder block, as MN & BB have the same gap between the frames, and the same piston and valve strokes, only larger diameter valves and pistons. Who these days knows whether they used the same block for both classes, and just bored the MN out bigger?

 

I think Bluebell/ BLS have patterns for the oil pumps.....

 

So are all those parts actually on 34073? Beyond the crank axle and the middle cylinder, and judging from the photo previously posted, I'd suggest not. So really we have just been given a list of parts needed to create an original MN - but I don't see how 34073, in its current state, particularly provides much assistance in that aim.

Tom

 

I'd rather have new rods made, be that coupling, con-rod and valve rods. Than a crank axle and a cylinder block!

 

But surely as it was "rumoured" (i know it might not be true) that Bodmin was being sold to west coast along with the Standard and one other (presuming one of the U class's) it would be for use between Tangmere and Bodmin to Keep them in quick overhauls? Im presuming the boilers are interchangable? or are they not?

 

Oh, they're interchangeable all right. The main difference is the smokebox. If 34016 is indeed for the WCRC stable, then a donor boiler would be quite handy. It was nice to speculate while it lasted...

 

Dont believe anything until you see it happen, the only thing of value to 34016 would be the boiler, but the boiler on 34016 had a lot of work done last time round to in effect give it a life of 20 years, the same with 73096, so the boiler shouldnt need extensive work, i would say that most likily 34073 is just at carnforth for storage, the road she stands on is just tempory track and not conected to any road going into the shed, if she had been sent there to donate parts, wouldnt she had been places somewhere where she could be stripped easier?