GWR 2859

But it still won't stop me having happy dreams tonight of seeing 2580, restored after being discovered in Ukraine, steaming across Meldon Viaduct on a round Dartmoor circular tour

 

What is this 2580? And, if it did turn out to be in the Ukraine, presumably it would have been regauged, so would need to be unregauged.

The much-maligned Mr Reeder isn't the only one who can fantasise.

 

I apologise, Martin earlier had trouble with his keyboard and instead of 2859 typed 2580 which just happens to be the number of the very last Dean Goods built (so far! ) which was one of many WD locos that disappeared after Dunkirk. I forgot about the gauge issue, it's just that Ukraine was in the news today!

 

I suggest that we should now draw a close to this discussion and watch and see what happens regarding 2859. I seem to remember that in my youth there was a gentleman (I won't reveal his name but it was the same as a drinking vessel that used to be popular with real ale connoisseurs!) who came up with a number of hare-brained schemes for preserved railways in Cornwall, and used to rail in the railway press about the apathy of the enthusiasts who failed to support him. I think he was an adult, so it shows that not all dreamers are schoolboys.

 

The problem being that Mr Reeder doesn't seem to see an industrial as glamorous enough. You may not be aware that he has 'started' (by which I mean he setup a Facebook page and got some initial publicity) several new build groups and he has been given a great deal of advice about these projects. He refuses to listen which is why his 'projects' have become so ridiculed.
The danger being that someone like Alex (flying scotman 123) who works on a railway, is learning the ropes and earning respect, will be looked on by some with the same view as they look on someone like Mr Reeder. I'm not convinced that Mr Reeder has ever worked on a railway or has any idea of what even a small loco restoration will take in terms of time, money and commitment before he even thinks about the bigger job of a mainline loco or a new build! There is also the financial aspect as no-one knows where any donations are going to and this could impact on other projects seeking donations.


Keith

 

So far think that there aren't enough of these young dreamers for it to have an effect, those young people who I have spoken to have been made very welcome as have I, and I'm hopeful they've will continue to be so despite Mr Reeder's best efforts.

 

I remember him - but in fairness, wasn't he the originator of the 6024 preservation group?

 

Now that is facinating, a Dean Goods, now taking this on a tangent, what would have been the likily fate of any british locos left in france after Dunkirk, they would have hardly been compatible with the french locos, with few if any spares, so Would the Germans have shipped them back to germany used them as shunting engines ,or broken them up, if they were thought as usefull, then they could have ended up in the soviet block after the war, so anything is possile , who knows what is waiting in former eastern block countries waiting to be re discovered

 

If there were components of a Dean Goods in the Eastern Bloc it would make an interesting basis for a rebuild/new build. Would be good to have another 0-6-0 which would surely be ideal on many preserved lines. Surprised no-one has suggested it before.....

 

Locomorives of the GWR part 13 details the fate of many, at the end of the war 56 were on the Etsy and Nord of which 22 were then sold to China. A few were believed to be behind the Iron Curtain (Poland) and there's a photo of 2438 at Minsk (Belarus). Half a dozen ended up in Italy.


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You may be right, I don't know - but I suspect that if he was he probably didn't stay involved for long.

 

That's certainly one of the schemes I was thinking of. I'm not sure what the outcome was, though.

 

I've also seen a photo of one, on shed, in the Soviet occupied zone of Austria at the end of WW2 but I doubt if any existed anywhere in mainland Europe by the early 50's. The Turkish Rlys acquired GWR 2308 from the WD via the Ottoman Rly Co after WW1 and this lasted until at least 1959 as TCDD 33041. A Dean tender was still around in the 70's minus centre wheelset. I would bet that this was the last one to survive anywhere "abroad". Ray.

 

As suggested on faceache, why doesn't he come and help with 2874 at Toddington, I'm sure they'd be grateful for the help. If you are reading this Mr Reeder, please consider this, this is the same class of loco you are trying to save, but with better chances
what more could you want!?

 

Actually I went from new build ( because the other dean goods project decided yet again to do a new build) I thought there was no point having 2 new build dean goods so that's why I went to restoring 2516 which fell through so my group became the mixed traffic locomotive group which our current aim is to try and buy 2859 and restore her to steam

 

Is a Dean Goods Project going ahead? If so why not just join it?

Why "mixed traffic" group. The mixed traffic 2-8-0s were the 4700s so why not support that project?

If however your "group" already has significant resources to initiate a project I think it's a bit early to be appealing for further funding until something is well under way.

I'm confused.

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We have a private location to stored the locomotive ,

 

My god, what an embarrassing post, Stuart.

 

Why