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The next newbuild

الموضوع في 'Steam Traction' بواسطة Gav106, بتاريخ ‏30 جوان 2014.

  1. RalphW

    RalphW Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Administrator Friend

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    A shed first to house and protect the valuable asset that you are at present building, but if it must be a loco then a decent 2-6-4 tank. As has been said, very versatile, ideal for any heritage line and capable of doing short main line runs, the Jacobite even.....:).
     
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  2. Jimc

    Jimc Part of the furniture

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    I thought it might be the other way round - somewhere to put our lovely new xxx when we need to clear the workshops.
     
  3. ghost

    ghost Part of the furniture

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    While we have the finished products in NCC No4, I'm not sure that there are actually any cylinder patterns over here.
    I know the RPSI would love to build another Jeep as they are such useful, 'go anywhere' locos.

    Keith
     
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    A very attractive locomotive
     
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  5. Gav106

    Gav106 Well-Known Member

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    Oh really? What happened to the patterns after casting? Cheers Gav
     
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    Well the last Jeep was built in 1950 in Derby, so I imagine that they're somewhere on the mainland or they've been destroyed/thrown out/in a private collection. I've certainly never heard any mention of any cylinder patterns in store at Whitehead.

    Keith
     
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    Gav106 Well-Known Member

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    why do i have it in my head that a cylinder pattern exists? I feel like someone said the the "jeep" had a new cylinder cast in preservation. Unless i have miss heard someone.

    Gav
     
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    Not to my knowledge.


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    Rescue 42859!

    Or failing that Fowler Tank 2313 'The Prince' if celebrity status is needed.

    A toybox (Shed) to keep them in would be nice too!

    Chris
     
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    The Fowler 2-6-4T would certainly be a useful Heritage line loco, and the originals when in service appeared well liked by the crews.
    However apart from recreating missing classes, there is also the need to have a means of producing in reasonable numbers a modern class of loco with standard parts for Heritage line use in the future, and that takes us to the 82045 project which is being built in part to demonstrate that this aim can be achieved. A class 3 tank engine, or plans easily adaptable to the 77xxx tender loco.
     
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  11. Martin Perry

    Martin Perry Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator Friend

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    I keep hearing that there is a need for a 'modern class of loco' but personally I am not sure of the logic (before anyone comments I think that the Standard 3 is a fine project in its own right).
    I would say that there is as much need for more new build Victorian locos ( even if 'modern' under the skin so to speak) I bet that the public would prefer them. If you keep playing the modern card too much, you are going to logic yourself out of building a steam loco at all ...
     
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    Why not build 4/2424, no pattern required, it was originally built with fabricated cylinders ! Seempull;)
     
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    Amen to that!

    If you want a loco to restore - and assuming you want one from the LMS family as a stablemate for the Patriot - then I would ask the NRM if they'd let you borrow the Midland Compound. Beautiful engine, and senior NRM figures have hinted in the past that she's an engine they'd be prepared to consider for steaming. Or what about Hardwicke? An engine from the LNWR school of design would provide a nice contrast to the Fowler Patriot :p

    If you want a newbuild, then how about one of these? The double-framed 0-6-0 tender engine is an enormous gap in British railway preservation. And I defy even the most vocal members of the BR green lobby to tell me this isn't beautiful!
    https://slatersplastikard.com/linePage.php?code=8L07
     
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  14. paulhitch

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    Let's just get something finished (yes that F word again) before tangents are gone off again. No-one has re-boilered anything larger than an A1X yet alone completed anything bigger from scratch. There are bound to be problems.

    PH
     
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    Tornado?

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    Nothing wrong with voicing some ideas. As Margaret Thatcher said: "watch your words, for they become actions...":p
     
  17. paulhitch

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    Boiler not constructed in UK and hardly free from problems, although seemingly not as severe as those affecting the boiler supplied to Australia.

    Although rather coy as to whom the specific suppliers are likely to be, the impression put out by the various schemes is that the boilers would be built in the U.K. We shall see.

    PH
     
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    Can one assume the boilers for all three of the Ffestiniog Railway's double-engines are bigger than an A1X?
     
  19. paulhitch

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    Interesting thought. An A1x weighs around 28 tons in working order

    PH
     
  20. david1984

    david1984 Resident of Nat Pres

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    It has to be remembered that the most popular idea's are not always the most suitable, hence the idea for a Midland 2P, but would the people willing to contribute to this be willing to do so for a Fowler Tank ?, useful as it would be, you can't tell people how to spend their money.

    From what I can tell, 2P's just carried the headlamps while the Jubilee or Black Five behind hauled the train.
     

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